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=== Comparisons ===
 
=== Comparisons ===
 
*'''[[DAPHNE]]''' is the primary emulator for LaserDisc arcade games. Supports more games than MAME. Use DaphneLoader to update DAPHNE and auto download games. The [[libretro]] core currently only works for Android.
 
*'''[[DAPHNE]]''' is the primary emulator for LaserDisc arcade games. Supports more games than MAME. Use DaphneLoader to update DAPHNE and auto download games. The [[libretro]] core currently only works for Android.
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:*'''[[Hypseus Singe]]''' is an SDL2 update to the DAPHNE emulator engine. It supports one game that neither Daphne nor MAME support; Goal to Go and also includes support for SINGE simulation. There are features [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JZPyoFf_JE&lc=UgzuBl0hD7127n-vgx54AaABAg.9XlY_rSf2ZY9XmmEiJ1hrg added] to Daphne that allow display enhancements, in SDL2,  over the original version. These allow it to support enhanced 4k MPEG-2 video in all games and support multiple screens to mimic the original hardware scoreboard for instance. Support for integrated bezels, hot-pluggable GameControllers, better lightgun integration and, with the 32bit upgrade on the VLDP, support for the full range on Singe 2 games. Hypseus now also runs a full 32bit overlay on all Singe games, this can be reverted (as per original Daphne Singe 1) to an 8-bit overlay via command line arguments. The diversity of overlays allows Hypseus to run Singe games which are far less resource intensive on SBCs, such as the Raspberry Pi and its kin.
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:*'''[[Hypseus Singe]]''' is an SDL2 update to the DAPHNE emulator engine. It also includes support for SINGE simulation. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92f2fFqjeXE&lc=UgzuBl0hD7127n-vgx54AaABAg.9XlY_rSf2ZY9XmmEiJ1hrg Hypseus is essentially the Daphne codebase, so will run original ROM sets to give authentic emulation of Daphne supported games]. There are features added to Daphne that allow display enhancements, in SDL2,  over the original version. These allow it to support enhanced 4k MPEG-2 video in all games and support multiple screens to mimic the original hardware scoreboard for instance. Support for integrated bezels and with the 32bit upgrade on the VLDP, Hypseus now supports the full range on Singe 2 games (previously Singe 2 video length could cause issues). Hypseus now also runs a full 32bit overlay on all Singe games, this can be reverted (as per original Daphne Singe 1) to an 8-bit overlay via command line arguments. The diversity of overlays allows Hypseus to run Singe games which are far less resource intensive on SBCs, such as the Raspberry Pi and its kin. This also, in certain users eyes, provides a more authentic Retro look to the games over the modern 32bit versions. Singe 2 and Hypseus Singe are aimed at different audiences both in hardware and aesthetics... Gameplay, in both, is identical.
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:*'''DirkSimple''' is a libretro core for LaserDisc arcade games but it has limited compatibility support and doesn't plan to support more FMV games. Unlike Hypseus Singe, it requires you to create .ogv file from your .ogg and .m2v DAPHNE capture files using FFmpeg. See [https://github.com/icculus/DirkSimple?tab=readme-ov-file#how-do-i-use-this How do i use DirkSimple] guide for additional required steps.
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*'''[[MAME]]''' (as of 0.242) now has support for seven LaserDisc games and three that DAPHNE doesn't support; Cube Quest, Firefox, and Time Traveler (only playable on the Singe version of Daphne). The reason MAME doesn't emulate many LaserDisc-based systems, is largely due to indecisions regarding the disc preservation method and format. This will hopefully be fixed in the future thanks to the [https://www.domesday86.com/ Domesday86 project] which employs a combination of specialized hardware and open-source software to preserve the discs in a far more faithful manner than ever before.
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*'''[[MAME]]''' The reason MAME doesn't emulate many LaserDisc-based systems, is largely due to indecisions regarding the disc preservation method and format. This will hopefully be fixed in the future thanks to the [https://www.domesday86.com/ Domesday86 project] which employs a combination of specialized hardware and open-source software to preserve the discs in a far more faithful manner than ever before.
 
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;Difference between captures for Daphne/Singe and dumps for MAME
 
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It's similar to the difference between "regular" floppy disc dumps and the lower-level captures that devices like the Applesauce or Greaseweasel do. The regular dumps just have the data that you'd see copying the disk on the computer. The lower-level dumps go down to the magnetic flux changes on the disk and are able to reproduce complex copy protection schemes. This allows MAME and other emulators to run copy protected software with the copy protection in place. (A lot of commonly found cracked versions from back in the 80s omitted or defaced the game's content, or were incomplete so that the game crashed on later levels or couldn't be beaten).
 
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The Daphne/Singe captures are pretty much what happens if you play the laserdisc into an Elgato or similar capture device and save the resulting video. *Over-simplifying a bit but not a lot.
 
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The new [https://github.com/simoninns/DomesdayDuplicator Domesday Duplicator] captures MAME uses were captured directly from the laser in the laserdisc player and then converted into video and other data by software. Among other things, the software can take captures from multiple copies of the same disc and use data from one to fix places where the disc was scratched or smudged or dirty on another and end up with a perfect capture.
 
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For Dragon's Lair, this took captures from 7 discs to end up at a perfect capture, because those discs got beaten on back in the day. Thayer's Quest took less.[https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1afdc9b/mame_0262/kofn7xh/]
 
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It's worth noting that "zero dropouts" means every frame of those laserdiscs is the best possible quality from the source media. MAME's presentation of that data isn't completely optimal yet (deinterlacing is really needed for some laserdisc games) but there's at least a path forward to getting all the LD games in and running now, and there's no worries that the CHD might be superseded by a better rip.[https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1afdc9b/mame_0262/koarmqq/]
 
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The raw RF captures from the LaserDiscs are about 41 GiB each. Several of these are required to get a dropout-free stack. For Thayer’s Quest, this used about 450 GiB of disk space.
 
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The compressed CHDs used to play the games in MAME are usually between 10 GiB and 20 GiB.[https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1afdc9b/mame_0262/koa6kjl/]
 
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Hypseus can enjoy the superior clarity of the Domesday86 rips by converting with ffmpeg, detailed here: [https://github.com/DirtBagXon/hypseus-singe/discussions/134]
 
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See [[Ripping games]] page for more information about ripping and dumping.
 
  
 
==Games==
 
==Games==
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! scope="col"|Game
 
! scope="col"|Game
 
! scope="col"|DAPHNE
 
! scope="col"|DAPHNE
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! scope="col"|HYPSEUS
 
 
! scope="col"|MAME
 
! scope="col"|MAME
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! scope="col"|DirkSimple
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! scope="col"|Ports*
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! scope="col"|Ports<ref>'''Ports:''' for a list of what systems the games have been ported to check [http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/games/related/ports.asp this link].</ref>
 
 
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|Astron Belt
 
|Astron Belt
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Badlands
 
|Badlands
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Bega's Battle
 
|Bega's Battle
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
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|Chantze's Stone
 
|Chantze's Stone
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Cliff Hanger
 
|Cliff Hanger
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}}
 
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|Cobra Command / Thunder Storm
 
|Cobra Command / Thunder Storm
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Cosmos Circuit
 
|Cosmos Circuit
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Crime Patrol
 
|Crime Patrol
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Crime Patrol 2: Drug Wars  
 
|Crime Patrol 2: Drug Wars  
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|Cube Quest
 
|Cube Quest
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|{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}}
 
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|Dragon's Lair
 
|Dragon's Lair
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}[https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1afdc9b/mame_0262/ *] ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Dragon's Lair II: TimeWarp
 
|Dragon's Lair II: TimeWarp
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Esh's Aurunmilla
 
|Esh's Aurunmilla
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Fast Draw Showdown
 
|Fast Draw Showdown
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Firefox
 
|Firefox
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|Freedom Fighter
 
|Freedom Fighter
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|Galaxian 3
 
|Galaxian 3
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|Galaxian 3: Attack of the Zolgear
 
|Galaxian 3: Attack of the Zolgear
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|Galaxy Ranger / Star Blazer
 
|Galaxy Ranger / Star Blazer
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
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|Goal to Go
 
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|GP World
 
|GP World
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
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|Interstellar Laser Fantasy
 
|Interstellar Laser Fantasy
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|The Last Bounty Hunter
 
|The Last Bounty Hunter
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|M.A.C.H. 3
 
|M.A.C.H. 3
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|Mad Dog McCree
 
|Mad Dog McCree
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|Mad Dog II: The Lost Gold
 
|Mad Dog II: The Lost Gold
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|NFL Football
 
|NFL Football
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Ninja Hayate
 
|Ninja Hayate
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Quarterhorse
 
|Quarterhorse
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|Road Blaster
 
|Road Blaster
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Space Ace
 
|Space Ace
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Space Pirates
 
|Space Pirates
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|Star Rider
 
|Star Rider
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|Super Don Quix·ote
 
|Super Don Quix·ote
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
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|Thayer's Quest
 
|Thayer's Quest
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|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}[https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1afdc9b/mame_0262/ *] ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
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|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Time Gal
 
|Time Gal
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|Time Traveler
 
|Time Traveler
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|{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Us vs. Them
 
|Us vs. Them
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|Who Shot Johnny Rock?
 
|Who Shot Johnny Rock?
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|Zorton Brothers
 
|Zorton Brothers
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<small>This list is updated as of MAME 0.242 and DAPHNE 1.0.12.</small>
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<small>This list is updated as of MAME 0.262 and DAPHNE 1.0.12.</small>
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<nowiki>*</nowiki> '''Ports:''' for a list of what systems the games have been ported to check [http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/games/related/ports.asp this link].
  
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