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==PCSX-R==
|title = Apple ][
 
|logo = AppleIIwithdd.png
 
|imagecaption = Apple ][ with the Disk 2.<br>Other models: [[:File:A2p.png|Apple ][+]], [[:File:Apple IIe 001b.jpg|Apple //e]], [[:File:Apple IIc with monitor.jpg|Apple IIc]], [[:File:A2e.png|Apple //e Enhanced]], [[:File:A2plat.png|Apple //e Platinum]], [[:File:Apple IIc Plus (front).jpg|Apple IIc Plus]].
 
|developer = [[Apple Inc.|Apple Computer, Inc.]]
 
|type = [[:Category:Computers|Computers]]
 
|generation =
 
|release = June 1977
 
|discontinued = November 1993
 
|predecessor = [[Apple I emulators|Apple I]]
 
|successor = [[Apple /// Line|Apple ///]], [[Apple IIGS emulators|Apple II<span style="font-size:75%">GS</span>]]
 
|emulated = {{✓}}
 
}}
 
The '''Apple ][''' was a family of computers produced by Apple Computer Inc. starting in June of 1977. The Apple ][ and related models put Apple on the map and is now considered one of their most successful product lines. The final model was discontinued in November of 1993. Steve Wozniak wanted to make a computer that was, "...small, reliable, convenient to use and inexpensive."
 
  
==Emulators==
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We need to do something about PCSXR. The page sings the praise of the emulator too highly. I consider it only moderately better than epsxe, but it is still a plugin and glitchy mess.
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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Many recent builds are broken too. At the very least we should find the latest one that works right and link to that one. --[[Special:Contributions/173.206.82.252|173.206.82.252]] 22:26, 13 April 2014 (EDT)
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:Oh, wow, a very old message from four years ago... Yeah, I think we all kinda agree about PCSX-R being a plugin-based mess and I see that its ongoing development is stuttering a bit. However, good news is RetroArch has got that good Beetle PSX core (still not perfect compatibility for everything); MEDNAFEN is excellent but unfortunately has got no debugging tools for ANY of its core (not good for romhacking or bugfixes). It's very strange that, despite all this time and the burgeoning field, there is not a very large number of recommended PSX emulators for desktop PC's.
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:To me, Avocado seems very promising and is being well made and relatively easy to use, I imagine. But it's being made solely by a Polish developer so progress will not be very fast. We see on the main page that the PCSX-R fork bundled with the PGXP graphical enhancement plugin is good. [[User:ObiKKa|ObiKKa]] ([[User talk:ObiKKa|talk]]) 03:20, 7 December 2018 (EST)
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== ZXE-D: Legend of Plasmalite ==
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 +
It should be noted that this game cannot be emulated by any emulator because it uses an external device (assemblable robots with parts) which connects to the memory card slot to show an exact replica of your robot during gameplay. No efforts have ever been made, and nobody is interested or maybe documentation/device availability is lacking.
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== PSXACT ==
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Can anyone find evidence to this project still being active? The github page linked 404s and google isn't helping me.
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:It moved to gitlab.
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== Miss important historical PSX emulator! ==
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"Connectix VGS" was the first commercial emulator for PS1 and therefore deserves to be included in this list.
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:Done. Thanks for suggestion! [[User:WebMint|WebMint]] ([[User talk:WebMint|talk]])
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== PCSX-Redux ==
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Can anyone add PCSX-Redux (https://github.com/grumpycoders/pcsx-redux), which is another fork of PCSX?
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Also, can anyone tell me why they disabled the Edit function on the whole page of PlayStation_emulators?
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== Duckstation now available as libretro core ==
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Good afternoon, everyone. I noticed DuckStation added libretro support a few days back, according to their commit log on GitHub. I tried to edit this information here myself, but it seems the whole page is edit-protected. So, could someone please mark DuckStation (desktop) as libretro-compatible? Thanks. [[User:Duckplc|Duckplc]] ([[User talk:Duckplc|talk]]) 15:41, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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== Mednafen PSX and Beetle should be split in the table ==
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As it stands now, I believe the table is somewhat misleading to newcomers, since it doesn't make it clear that libretro's Beetle PSX core is heavily modified from the Mednafen core. This distinction is mentioned below the table, but could be made clear right away in the able itself. My proposal would be to add an additional row for Beetle PSX. [[User:Duckplc|Duckplc]] ([[User talk:Duckplc|talk]]) 15:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
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== pSXfin reference is broken ==
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The footnote reference to a compatibility list for pSXfin is broken<br>
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http://psx.silvanthalas.com/psx.html<br>
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A working link is on the page for pSXfin itself<br>
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https://web.archive.org/web/20170706063016/http://psx.silvanthalas.com/psx.html
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== PCSX-Reloaded (PCSXR) Is Still Active In-Development ==
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PCSX-Reloaded (PCSXR) is still active in-development. (https://ci.appveyor.com/project/iCatButler/pcsxr/build/artifacts)
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== Adding ares ==
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I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 1/4 star rating (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
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|-
 
! scope="col"|Name
 
! scope="col"|Name
 
! scope="col"|Platform(s)
 
! scope="col"|Platform(s)
! scope="col"|Latest Version
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! scope="col"|Version
! scope="col"|][
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! scope="col"|Plugins
! scope="col"|][+
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! scope="col"|[[libretro|Libretro Core]]
! scope="col"|//e
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! scope="col"|<abbr title="Resizable Internal Resolution">RIR</abbr>
! scope="col"|IIc
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! scope="col"|[[Emulation Accuracy|Accuracy]]
! scope="col"|//e Enhanced
 
! scope="col"|//e Platinum
 
! scope="col"|IIc Plus
 
! scope="col"|IIGS
 
 
! scope="col"|<abbr title="Free/Libre and Open-Source Software">FLOSS</abbr>
 
! scope="col"|<abbr title="Free/Libre and Open-Source Software">FLOSS</abbr>
 
! scope="col"|Active
 
! scope="col"|Active
 
! scope="col"|[[Recommended Emulators|Recommended]]
 
! scope="col"|[[Recommended Emulators|Recommended]]
 
|-
 
|-
!colspan="14"|PC / x86
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|[[ares]]
|-
 
|[[MAME]]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS|FreeBSD}}
 
|[http://www.mamedev.org/release.html {{MAMEVer}}]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
|-
 
|[https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin AppleWin]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows}}
 
|[https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/releases {{AppleWinVer}}]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
|-
 
|LinApple
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Linux}}
 
|[https://github.com/linappleii/linapple Git]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
|-
 
|LinApple-pie
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Linux}}
 
|[https://github.com/dabonetn/linapple-pie Git]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
|-
 
|[[MicroM8]]
 
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS}}
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS}}
|[https://paleotronic.com/software/microm8/download/ Continuous]
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|[https://github.com/higan-emu/ares/releases/ {{aresVer}}]
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}}
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|?
|-
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|{{✗}}
|[[Clock Signal|CLK]]
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|?
|align=left|{{Icon|Linux|macOS|FreeBSD}}
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|?
|[https://github.com/TomHarte/CLK/releases {{clkver}}]
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|{{✓}}
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}}
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|{{✓}}
|-
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|{{✗}}
|[[BizHawk]]<br/><small>(Virtu based)</small>
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows}}
 
|[https://github.com/TASVideos/BizHawk/releases {{BizHawkVer}}]
 
|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
|[[Mednafen]]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS|FreeBSD}}
 
|[https://mednafen.github.io/releases {{MednafenVer}}]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} (WIP)
 
|-
 
|[https://web.archive.org/web/20071206014650/http://www.dridus.com:80/~nyef/darcnes/ DarcNES]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS|FreeBSD}}
 
|[https://segaretro.org/DarcNES 9b0401/9b0313]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
|[https://www.scullinsteel.com/apple2/ AppleIIjs]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Web}}
 
|[https://github.com/whscullin/apple2js git]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{}}
 
|-
 
|[http://www.virtualapple.org/ Virtual Apple II]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Web}}
 
|4.5
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
|[http://www.virtualii.com/ Virtual II]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Mac}}
 
|10.3.1
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||?
 
|-
 
!colspan="14"|Consoles
 
|-
 
|[http://wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiApple WiiApple]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|Wii}}
 
|[https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/wiiapple/wiiapple-0.0.7.zip 0.07]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||? ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
|[http://dl.qj.net/Apple-II-Portable-v0.1-PSP-Emulators/pg/12/fid/171/catid/117 Apple II Portable]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|PSP}}
 
|[https://psp.brewology.com/downloads/download.php?id=4081&mcid=1 0.1-0173]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
|[https://www.zophar.net/consoles/nds/apple2/a2ds.html A2DS]
 
|align=left|{{Icon|NDS}}
 
|[https://www.gamebrew.org/images/2/23/Apple2ds.zip 2008]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
|PomDS
 
|align=left|{{Icon|NDS}}
 
|[https://www.gamebrew.org/images/9/91/PomDSV20.zip 2.0]
 
|{{✓}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||? ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
 
|}
 
|}
  
==Models==
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[[User:BlaBlaCra|BlaBlaCra]] ([[User talk:BlaBlaCra|talk]]) 21:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
====[[wikipedia:Apple_II|Apple ][]]====
 
The Apple ][ was released in June of '77 and retailed for {{Inflation|USD|1298|1977}} and had a 6502 CPU at 1.023 MHz, 4KB of RAM, a cassette tape for storage, a 1-bit speaker, 7 expansion slots, it's keyboard was only uppercase, a low-res 40x48 16-color graphics mode, and a hi-res 280x192 6-color graphics mode.
 
====[[wikipedia:Apple_II_Plus|Apple ][+]]====
 
The Apple ][+ was released in June of '79 and retailed for {{Inflation|USD|1195|1979}} and had the same 6502 CPU, 16KB of RAM, the same graphics modes, speaker, expansion slots, and keyboard as the original.
 
====[[wikipedia:Apple_IIe|Apple //e]]====
 
The Apple //e was released in January of '83 and had the same CPU and expansion slots as the Apple ][, 64KB of RAM, had a full ASCII keyboard, it introduced the double-low-resolution graphics mode which had a resolution of 80x48 in 16-color, and a double-high-resolution of 560×192 in 16 colors.
 
====[[wikipedia:Apple_IIc|Apple IIc]]====
 
The Apple IIc was released on April 24, 1984 and retailed for {{Inflation|USD|1295|1984}} and had a 65C02 CPU at 1.023 MHz, 128KB of RAM, same graphics modes, speaker, as the Apple //e, it had built-in storage, and a built in 140KB single sided 5.25-inch floppy drive. It did not have any expansion slots.
 
====[[wikipedia:Apple_IIGS|Apple IIGS]]====
 
The Apple IIGS was released on September 15, 1986.
 
====[[wikipedia:Apple_IIe#Enhanced IIe|Apple //e Enhanced]]====
 
The Apple //e Enhanced was released in March of '85 and was a Apple //e but with a 65C02 CPU at 1.023 MHz.
 
====[[wikipedia:Apple_IIe#Platinum IIe|Apple //e Platinum]]====
 
The Apple //e Platinum was just an Apple //e Enhanced but with a full numeric keypad and 128KB of RAM.
 
====[[wikipedia:Apple_IIc_Plus|Apple IIc Plus]]====
 
The Apple IIc Plus was released in April of '88 and retailed for {{Inflation|USD|675|1988}} and had a 65C02 CPU at 1MHz or 4MHz (it was user selectable for older programs), 8KB SRAM cache, same RAM, graphics modes, speaker as the Apple //e Platinum, and a built in 800KB double sided 3.5-inch floppy drive.
 
{{Apple}}
 
[[Category:Computers]]
 

Revision as of 21:36, 11 October 2021

PCSX-R

We need to do something about PCSXR. The page sings the praise of the emulator too highly. I consider it only moderately better than epsxe, but it is still a plugin and glitchy mess.

Many recent builds are broken too. At the very least we should find the latest one that works right and link to that one. --173.206.82.252 22:26, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

Oh, wow, a very old message from four years ago... Yeah, I think we all kinda agree about PCSX-R being a plugin-based mess and I see that its ongoing development is stuttering a bit. However, good news is RetroArch has got that good Beetle PSX core (still not perfect compatibility for everything); MEDNAFEN is excellent but unfortunately has got no debugging tools for ANY of its core (not good for romhacking or bugfixes). It's very strange that, despite all this time and the burgeoning field, there is not a very large number of recommended PSX emulators for desktop PC's.
To me, Avocado seems very promising and is being well made and relatively easy to use, I imagine. But it's being made solely by a Polish developer so progress will not be very fast. We see on the main page that the PCSX-R fork bundled with the PGXP graphical enhancement plugin is good. ObiKKa (talk) 03:20, 7 December 2018 (EST)

ZXE-D: Legend of Plasmalite

It should be noted that this game cannot be emulated by any emulator because it uses an external device (assemblable robots with parts) which connects to the memory card slot to show an exact replica of your robot during gameplay. No efforts have ever been made, and nobody is interested or maybe documentation/device availability is lacking.

PSXACT

Can anyone find evidence to this project still being active? The github page linked 404s and google isn't helping me.

It moved to gitlab.

Miss important historical PSX emulator!

"Connectix VGS" was the first commercial emulator for PS1 and therefore deserves to be included in this list.

Done. Thanks for suggestion! WebMint (talk)

PCSX-Redux

Can anyone add PCSX-Redux (https://github.com/grumpycoders/pcsx-redux), which is another fork of PCSX?

Also, can anyone tell me why they disabled the Edit function on the whole page of PlayStation_emulators?

Duckstation now available as libretro core

Good afternoon, everyone. I noticed DuckStation added libretro support a few days back, according to their commit log on GitHub. I tried to edit this information here myself, but it seems the whole page is edit-protected. So, could someone please mark DuckStation (desktop) as libretro-compatible? Thanks. Duckplc (talk) 15:41, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Mednafen PSX and Beetle should be split in the table

As it stands now, I believe the table is somewhat misleading to newcomers, since it doesn't make it clear that libretro's Beetle PSX core is heavily modified from the Mednafen core. This distinction is mentioned below the table, but could be made clear right away in the able itself. My proposal would be to add an additional row for Beetle PSX. Duckplc (talk) 15:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

pSXfin reference is broken

The footnote reference to a compatibility list for pSXfin is broken
http://psx.silvanthalas.com/psx.html
A working link is on the page for pSXfin itself
https://web.archive.org/web/20170706063016/http://psx.silvanthalas.com/psx.html

PCSX-Reloaded (PCSXR) Is Still Active In-Development

PCSX-Reloaded (PCSXR) is still active in-development. (https://ci.appveyor.com/project/iCatButler/pcsxr/build/artifacts)

Adding ares

I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 1/4 star rating (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:

Name Platform(s) Version Plugins Libretro Core RIR Accuracy FLOSS Active Recommended
ares Windows Linux macOS v136 ? ? ?

BlaBlaCra (talk) 21:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)