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== SameBoy recommendation?? ==
|title = Orbital
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SameBoy is becoming very accurate lately and has a great libretro core to boot. Should we recommend it? - Syboxez
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:I don't know the answer to this but just wanted to stop by and say thank you for asking as opposed to just changing it. I wish more people would do that. We'll see how this one goes! [[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 20:14, 1 March 2018 (EST)
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::I might run some accuracy tests myself and change it if it is on par with Gambatte if nobody responds in a week. --[[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]]) 21:41, 1 March 2018 (EST)
|active = Yes
 
|platform = Windows, Linux
 
|target = [[PlayStation 4 emulators|PlayStation 4]]
 
|architecture = x86_64
 
|developer = AlexAltea & Orbital community
 
|website = [https://phi.nz/orbital/ phi.nz/Orbital]
 
|support = [https://www.patreon.com/AlexAltea Patreon]
 
|source = [https://github.com/AlexAltea/orbital GitHub]
 
|license = MIT License
 
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'''Orbital''' is a virtualization-based [[PlayStation 4 emulators|PlayStation 4 emulator]] for Windows and Linux that is under heavy development. It can only boot the firmware. Do not expect to play commercial games with it yet. It is also open-source and is a [[High/Low level emulation|low-level]] emulator
 
  
==Overview==
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Just ran blargg's GB tests on SameBoy using real bootroms (same results with the included open source bootroms) and my results are:
  
Future plans for the emulator can be found at the [https://github.com/AlexAltea/orbital/wiki/Roadmap Roadmap] page.
 
  
The lead developer, Alexandro Sanchez (AKA 'AlexAltea'), [https://twitter.com/AlexAltea/status/1107923051621044225 started working] on the Orbital program the day he launched it publicly on GitHub on [https://github.com/AlexAltea/orbital/commit/064abb20f9e410f9ac1110ccedc7287820421253 October 29, 2017]. On [https://twitter.com/AlexAltea/status/1107865782472634368 18 March, 2019], AlexAltea revealed on Twitter that Orbital was able to boot into Safe Mode from PS4 5.xx kernels on PC, with graphical output.
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Sameboy:
  
According to AlexAltea, Orbital relies on [https://twitter.com/AlexAltea/status/1108700030192549889 hardware-accelerated virtualization, not emulation, so it yields near-native performance]. If anything, there could be bottlenecks in GPU rendering, e.g. due to UMA, but he had been working on ways to reduce overhead there. Orbital uses SPIR-V for hardware-accelerated virtualization - it is a low-level shader language used in the Vulkan graphics API. The program is driving graphical output by fully emulating the AMD GPU via the Vulkan backend and recompiling GCN bytecode to SPIR-V.
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cgb_sound = 100%
  
==External links==
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cpu_intrs = 100%
* [http://discord.me/orbitalemu Official Discord channel for Orbital]
 
* [https://twitter.com/AlexAltea Twitter] (Lead programmer AlexAltea)
 
  
[[Category:Emulators]]
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dmg_sound
[[Category:PlayStation 4 emulators]]
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[[Category:Windows emulation software]]
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CGB = fails 08,09,10,11,12 (fails on real CGB and AGB hardware as well)
[[Category:Linux emulation software]]
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DMG = fails 01
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instr_timing = 100%
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interrupt_time = 100%
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mem_timing = 100%
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mem_timing-2 = 100%
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OAM_bug = Failed Causes, Scanline timing, Timing bug, Timing effect, and Instr Effect, passes everything else (Same results on real CGB and AGB hardware, but everything passes on real DMG hardware, unlike any emulator, even in DMG mode)
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halt_bug = 100%
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Compared to existing emulators: http://tasvideos.org/EmulatorResources/GBAccuracyTests.html
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Barring the DMG_Sound tests, SameBoy is on par with Gambatte and BGB accuracy-wise. Also SameBoy is active and open source, unlike Gambatte (activity-wise) and BGB (source code). I think we should recommend it. --[[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]]) 12:42, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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::Yeah I don't see a problem with recommending it, but let's see what other people say. [[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 14:31, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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::Have no issues with the recommendation, but I just want to point out that it doesn't have an entry in the comparisons. I find the recommendation should at least be backed by an explanation as to ''why'' it's recommended aside from these test results. How does it perform? Is the standalone UI any good? That sort of thing. [[User:FosterHaven|FosterHaven]] ([[User talk:FosterHaven|talk]]) 14:55, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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:::The reason there is no entry in the TASVideos link is because the emulator didn't exist as of the time of the testing. I think the UI is perfectly fine, but is completely keyboard-based. Not many options to worry about. There is also a libretro core if you don't like the UI. The testing done here was my own personal testing and the tests are the same ones that TASVideos used. Feel free to replicate these results with the test ROMs (link in the TASVideos page). I have seen no performance or input lag issues with this emulator. As for a comparisons entry, that would have to be added. I may do that when I have time if someone else doesn't beat me to it. --[[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]]) 17:01, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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I'm just copying over TASVideo's page right now, but I just wanted to ask... you say specific revisions of real hardware fails certain tests (CGB and AGB?). Should that be in the table as well? I ask because the amount at the top that's graded 100% should say original hardware (the PS1 Tests page says PlayStation). [[User:FosterHaven|FosterHaven]] ([[User talk:FosterHaven|talk]]) 17:27, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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:I think that's a good idea. The 100% number comes from real DMG hardware, and that's what all the tests are measured against. When compared to real CGB and AGB hardware, Gambatte, BGB, and SameBoy are all 100% accurate according to blargg's tests. I also think we should add other tests as well (Gambatte and Mooneye specifically) with real bootroms (Mooneye specifically fails when not using real bootroms). Also for clarification, CGB and AGB = Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance. DMG = OG Game Boy. I also only ran the DMG_Sound and OAM tests on real hardware, so if you have a flashcart, testing everything would be a good idea. DMG_Sound combined test gives a black screen on emulators and on CGB/AGB, so those tests need to be run individually. I'll be happy to run all tests on real hardware, but my flash cart is a PITA (EMS 64M USB), so I won't be able to do it today. --[[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]]) 17:30, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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::Thanks for clarifying the models, I didn't think AGB meant the Game Boy Advance but in hindsight it should have been obvious. I'll add the revisions but comment them out until you can get results. They're not needed immediately <s>because I'm still trying to add the other tables</s>. Feel free to add the results in now or whenever you can. [[User:FosterHaven|FosterHaven]] ([[User talk:FosterHaven|talk]]) 17:52, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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== MeBoy recommendation ==
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I would add it to the page myself, but I figured it would be better to ask before doing anything.
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MeBoy is an emulator -the only emulator, I think- built for J2ME cellphones. This includes most of Nokia, Sony Ericson, Blackberry and lots of others between 2004 and 2008.
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It's not active anymore and it has a lot of problems, but it's a working emulator that can run most Gameboy and Gameboy Color games well enough. If you own any of those phones, you have a cool console to carry with you.
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I've gotten to love this project, it's the first emulator I ever used and the one I finished most GBC games with. No other J2ME emulator is  in this page, and I think this one would make a good entry, if only a honorary mention.
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::Add it / [[User:Jpx|Jpx]] ([[User talk:Jpx|talk]]) 06:59, 13 December 2019 (CET)
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== Pizza Boy Emulator for Android ==
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I'm new to editing this wiki, so I just want to ask about adding this Game Boy emulator to the page.
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Pizza Boy is an emulator for Android that has been around for a few years now and claims to be the most accurate emulator for the platform, which I found to be quite true after trying it out with several games.
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It's still going under further development as the developer tests out all the games in the library and occasionally updates the emulator so that all the games can run efficiently.
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It's available from Google Play alongside a version of the emulator for GBA games, each with Paid Versions.
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== Emulicious is not FLOSS ==
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Someone add that, the page is protected. [[User:Lordlouckster|Lordlouckster]] ([[User talk:Lordlouckster|talk]]) 05:30, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
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== GBEmulatorShootout ==
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Some time ago, the user Daid from the gbdev community has launched the GB Emulator Shootout (https://daid.github.io/GBEmulatorShootout/).
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It is a test suite automation containing all of the common tests such as Blargg's tests but also several other tests.
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It compares several active and non-active emulators.
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I think it should be linked to from somewhere on this page.
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== Adding ares ==
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I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 3/4 star ratings (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:
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! scope="col"|Name
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! scope="col"|Platform(s)
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! scope="col"|Latest Version
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! scope="col"|Game Link Support
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! scope="col"|[[libretro|Libretro Core]]
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! scope="col"|<abbr title="Free/Libre and Open-Source Software">FLOSS</abbr>
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! scope="col"|Active
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! scope="col"|[[Recommended Emulators|Recommended]]
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|[[ares]]
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|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS}}
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|[https://github.com/higan-emu/ares/releases/ {{aresVer}}]
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[[User:BlaBlaCra|BlaBlaCra]] ([[User talk:BlaBlaCra|talk]]) 21:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:19, 11 October 2021

SameBoy recommendation??

SameBoy is becoming very accurate lately and has a great libretro core to boot. Should we recommend it? - Syboxez

I don't know the answer to this but just wanted to stop by and say thank you for asking as opposed to just changing it. I wish more people would do that. We'll see how this one goes! Karasuhebi (talk) 20:14, 1 March 2018 (EST)
I might run some accuracy tests myself and change it if it is on par with Gambatte if nobody responds in a week. --Syboxez (talk) 21:41, 1 March 2018 (EST)

Just ran blargg's GB tests on SameBoy using real bootroms (same results with the included open source bootroms) and my results are:


Sameboy:

cgb_sound = 100%

cpu_intrs = 100%

dmg_sound

CGB = fails 08,09,10,11,12 (fails on real CGB and AGB hardware as well)

DMG = fails 01

instr_timing = 100%

interrupt_time = 100%

mem_timing = 100%

mem_timing-2 = 100%

OAM_bug = Failed Causes, Scanline timing, Timing bug, Timing effect, and Instr Effect, passes everything else (Same results on real CGB and AGB hardware, but everything passes on real DMG hardware, unlike any emulator, even in DMG mode)

halt_bug = 100%


Compared to existing emulators: http://tasvideos.org/EmulatorResources/GBAccuracyTests.html

Barring the DMG_Sound tests, SameBoy is on par with Gambatte and BGB accuracy-wise. Also SameBoy is active and open source, unlike Gambatte (activity-wise) and BGB (source code). I think we should recommend it. --Syboxez (talk) 12:42, 4 March 2018 (EST)

Yeah I don't see a problem with recommending it, but let's see what other people say. Karasuhebi (talk) 14:31, 4 March 2018 (EST)
Have no issues with the recommendation, but I just want to point out that it doesn't have an entry in the comparisons. I find the recommendation should at least be backed by an explanation as to why it's recommended aside from these test results. How does it perform? Is the standalone UI any good? That sort of thing. FosterHaven (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2018 (EST)
The reason there is no entry in the TASVideos link is because the emulator didn't exist as of the time of the testing. I think the UI is perfectly fine, but is completely keyboard-based. Not many options to worry about. There is also a libretro core if you don't like the UI. The testing done here was my own personal testing and the tests are the same ones that TASVideos used. Feel free to replicate these results with the test ROMs (link in the TASVideos page). I have seen no performance or input lag issues with this emulator. As for a comparisons entry, that would have to be added. I may do that when I have time if someone else doesn't beat me to it. --Syboxez (talk) 17:01, 4 March 2018 (EST)

I'm just copying over TASVideo's page right now, but I just wanted to ask... you say specific revisions of real hardware fails certain tests (CGB and AGB?). Should that be in the table as well? I ask because the amount at the top that's graded 100% should say original hardware (the PS1 Tests page says PlayStation). FosterHaven (talk) 17:27, 4 March 2018 (EST)

I think that's a good idea. The 100% number comes from real DMG hardware, and that's what all the tests are measured against. When compared to real CGB and AGB hardware, Gambatte, BGB, and SameBoy are all 100% accurate according to blargg's tests. I also think we should add other tests as well (Gambatte and Mooneye specifically) with real bootroms (Mooneye specifically fails when not using real bootroms). Also for clarification, CGB and AGB = Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance. DMG = OG Game Boy. I also only ran the DMG_Sound and OAM tests on real hardware, so if you have a flashcart, testing everything would be a good idea. DMG_Sound combined test gives a black screen on emulators and on CGB/AGB, so those tests need to be run individually. I'll be happy to run all tests on real hardware, but my flash cart is a PITA (EMS 64M USB), so I won't be able to do it today. --Syboxez (talk) 17:30, 4 March 2018 (EST)
Thanks for clarifying the models, I didn't think AGB meant the Game Boy Advance but in hindsight it should have been obvious. I'll add the revisions but comment them out until you can get results. They're not needed immediately because I'm still trying to add the other tables. Feel free to add the results in now or whenever you can. FosterHaven (talk) 17:52, 4 March 2018 (EST)

MeBoy recommendation

I would add it to the page myself, but I figured it would be better to ask before doing anything.

MeBoy is an emulator -the only emulator, I think- built for J2ME cellphones. This includes most of Nokia, Sony Ericson, Blackberry and lots of others between 2004 and 2008.

It's not active anymore and it has a lot of problems, but it's a working emulator that can run most Gameboy and Gameboy Color games well enough. If you own any of those phones, you have a cool console to carry with you.

I've gotten to love this project, it's the first emulator I ever used and the one I finished most GBC games with. No other J2ME emulator is in this page, and I think this one would make a good entry, if only a honorary mention.

Add it / Jpx (talk) 06:59, 13 December 2019 (CET)

Pizza Boy Emulator for Android

I'm new to editing this wiki, so I just want to ask about adding this Game Boy emulator to the page.

Pizza Boy is an emulator for Android that has been around for a few years now and claims to be the most accurate emulator for the platform, which I found to be quite true after trying it out with several games.

It's still going under further development as the developer tests out all the games in the library and occasionally updates the emulator so that all the games can run efficiently.

It's available from Google Play alongside a version of the emulator for GBA games, each with Paid Versions.

Emulicious is not FLOSS

Someone add that, the page is protected. Lordlouckster (talk) 05:30, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

GBEmulatorShootout

Some time ago, the user Daid from the gbdev community has launched the GB Emulator Shootout (https://daid.github.io/GBEmulatorShootout/).

It is a test suite automation containing all of the common tests such as Blargg's tests but also several other tests.

It compares several active and non-active emulators.

I think it should be linked to from somewhere on this page.

Adding ares

I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 3/4 star ratings (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:

Name Platform(s) Latest Version Game Link Support Libretro Core FLOSS Active Recommended
ares Windows Linux macOS v137 ?

BlaBlaCra (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)