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Why are Nintendulator, Nestopia and FCEUX recommended?
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I just tried out all the recommended emulators and Mesen and PuNES seem a lot better. Nintendulator doesn't load zip-files, has to be configurated to even start. All of them (Nintendulator, Nestopia, FCEUX) have complicated menu systems and configurations. Mesen is super easy to use, has better compatibility, auto updating, netplay and it even loads goodmerged-files. PuNES is not as good but supports rewinding so that I might get by.
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:Nestopia is still recommended primarily because of its availability as a Libretro core.  Standalone is okay but puNES and Mesen are much better these days.  If either of those two were to become Libretro cores then I couldn't see recommending Nestopia at all.  As for FCEUX and Nintendulator, I have no idea. -- [[User:Random Encounter|Random Encounter]] ([[User talk:Random Encounter|talk]]) 14:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
|screenshot = 86Box 2017-07-21 13-41-37.png
 
|version = v2.07
 
|active = Yes
 
|platform = Windows
 
|target = [[Intel CPUs]]
 
|developer = [https://github.com/OBattler OBattler]
 
|website = [http://86box.net/ 86box.net]
 
|support = [https://patreon.com/86box Patreon]<br />[https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/86Box PayPal]
 
|license = GNU GPLv2
 
|source = [https://github.com/86Box/86Box GitHub]
 
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'''86Box''' is an open-source, [[High/Low level emulation|low-level]] [[Intel CPUs|PC emulator]]. It focuses on PC hardware from the 80s and 90s. A variety of operating systems can be installed in the emulator, which can then be used to launch programs. It is a fork of [[PCem]]. It took over from [[PCem-X]] after the latter was deprecated.
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FCEUX still gets recc'ed based on debugging features. These things matter for homebrew. As for Nintendulator, not a damn clue. [[User:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|Goi~Yaas~Dinn]] ([[User talk:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|talk]])
  
==Downloads==
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Note that Mesen, while it works on GNU/Linux, it's pretty awful due to a ton of stuttering and lag during gameplay, even with VSync turned on. puNES should be recommended over it for GNU/Linux users (and NEStopia UE for its libretro core). [[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]])
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|align=center|{{Icon|Win-big}}
 
|'''[https://github.com/86Box/86Box/releases Official GitHub stable builds]'''<br/><small>Need these [https://github.com/86Box/roms/releases ROMs] to run</small>
 
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|align=center|{{Icon|Win-big}}
 
|'''[http://ci.86box.net/job/86Box/ Official Stable builds]'''<br/><small>Need these [https://github.com/86Box/roms/releases ROMs] to run</small>
 
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|align=center|{{Icon|Win-big}}
 
|'''[https://ci.86box.net/job/86Box-Debug/ Official Debug builds]'''<br/><small>Need these [https://github.com/86Box/roms/releases ROMs] to run</small>
 
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|align=center|{{Icon|Win-big}}
 
|'''[http://ci.86box.net/job/86Box-Dev/ Official Dev builds]'''<br/><small>Need these [https://github.com/86Box/roms/releases ROMs] to run</small>
 
|}
 
  
==Overview==
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== Some Issues ==
To run any program, an operating system needs to be installed in 86Box first. It has a [[Dynamic_recompilation|dynamic recompiler]] that gives accurate Pentium/II support. It can also emulate numerous 2D and 3D cards.
 
  
86Box has now introduced a new GUI on Windows. This GUI is much more reminiscent of something like Virtual PC 2007 or VMware than the PCem UI, so users of those bits of software should feel more at home now.
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1. Can we cut the description of the FDS down to a line and keep all the talkative bits about it under its peripheral subheader? I realize I'm guilty of nearly doubling its number of lines, but that's before I read the whole page and discovered it already had a home.
  
==Image support==
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2. There appears to be a dick-measuring contest going on in a footnote between proponents of mesen and puNES re the number of mappers each supports. Can I just say each supports mappers the other doesn't or would that be untrue?
  
===Floppy===
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3. The assertion that VC NES emulation is somehow accurate in any way (simply because Nintendo did it) I find highly suspect (considering what is known about their approach to other consoles such as the SNES and N64). Can anyone back that up?
*IMG, FLP, HDM, BIN (Basic sector floppy images)
 
*IMD, JSON, TDO (Advanced sector floppy images)
 
*FDI (Flux floppy images)
 
*86F, MFM (Surface floppy images)
 
  
===Hard disk===
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I plan to do some other minor edits to polish, but first I wanted to clear this up. [[User:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|Goi~Yaas~Dinn]] ([[User talk:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|talk]])
*IMG (Raw hard disk images)
 
*HDI (Hard disk images used by emulators for NEC PC-98)
 
*VHD (Virtual hard disk images; Support fixed-size, dynamic-size or differencing VHDs)
 
  
===CD-ROM===
 
*ISO
 
*CUE
 
*Mounting a real or virtual CD-ROM drive
 
  
===Others===
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Pretty much no VC emulator is accurate, barring GBA on the 3DS since it uses hardware, and GBA on the Wii U is decent as well, due to being coded by a third party. Also would be nice if the FDS info was still on the page, just somewhere else. The FDS versions of many games were superior to the American cart releases, and it would be good for people to know that. [[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]])
*ZDI, IMG (Iomega ZIP drive images; Support both Zip 100 and Zip 250)
 
*MDI, IMG (Magneto-optical drive images)
 
  
==OS support==
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I went ahead and finished editing and polishing. Thank you for your (somewhat belated) response. [[User:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|Goi~Yaas~Dinn]] ([[User talk:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|talk]]) 03:56, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
An incomplete list of operating systems that can be installed on it:
 
  
* DOS
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== Adding ares ==
* Microsoft Windows (up to Windows 7)
 
* OS/2
 
* Any Linux distros (which support Premium processors)
 
* BeOS
 
* Minix-PC 1.x, 2.x
 
* BSD (FreeBSD 6.x and OpenBSD i386 are recommended, NetBSD/i386 has boot issue)
 
* NEXTSTEP 3.1 to 3.3, OPENSTEP 4.0 to 4.2 (including Apple Rhapsody developer releases)
 
  
==Hardware support==
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I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 2/4 star ratings (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:
<div class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
 
===Graphics cards===
 
<div class="wikitable" style="-moz-column-width: 25em; -webkit-column-width: 25em; column-width: 25em; list-style-type: decimal;">
 
* [PCI / AGP] 3dfx Voodoo 3 2000
 
* [PCI / AGP] 3dfx Voodoo 3 2000 (On-Board 8MB SGRAM)
 
* [PCI / AGP] 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000
 
* [PCI] 3dfx Voodoo Banshee
 
* [ISA] AMI S3 86c924
 
* [ISA] ATI EGA Wonder 800+
 
* [ISA / PCI / VLB] ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (Mach64 GX)
 
* [ISA] ATI Korean VGA (ATI-28800-5)
 
* [ISA] ATI VGA-88 (ATI-18800-1)
 
* [ISA] ATI VGA Charger (ATI-28800-5)
 
* [ISA] ATI VGA Edge-16 (ATI-18800-5)
 
* [ISA] ATI VGA Wonder (ATI-18800)
 
* [ISA] ATI VGA Wonder XL24 (ATI-28800-6)
 
* [PCI] ATI Video Xpression (Mach64 VT2)
 
* [ISA] CGA
 
* [ISA] Chips & Technologies SuperEGA
 
* [ISA] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5401
 
* [ISA] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5402
 
* [ISA] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5420
 
* [ISA] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5422
 
* [VLB] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5424
 
* [ISA] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5428
 
* [ISA] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5429
 
* [PCI] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5430
 
* [ISA / PCI / VLB] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5434
 
* [PCI] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5436
 
* [PCI] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5440
 
* [PCI] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5446
 
* [PCI] Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5480
 
* [ISA] Compaq ATI VGA Wonder XL (ATI-28800-5)
 
* [ISA] Compaq CGA
 
* [ISA] Compaq CGA 2
 
* [ISA] Compaq EGA
 
* [PCI] Creative Labs 3D Blaster Banshee
 
* [VLB] Diamond SpeedStar PRO (Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5426)
 
* [VLB] Diamond SpeedStar PRO SE (Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5430)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 (S3 ViRGE)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Diamond Stealth 3D 3000 (S3 ViRGE/VX)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM (S3 Trio64)
 
* [PCI / VLB Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM (S3 Vision964)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Diamond Stealth SE (S3 Trio32)
 
* [ISA] Diamond Stealth VRAM (S3 86c911)
 
* [ISA] EGA
 
* [PCI / VLB] ELSA Winner 2000 Pro/X (S3 Vision964)
 
* [PCI / VLB] ELSA Winner 2000 Pro/X (S3 Vision968)
 
* [ISA] G2 GC205
 
* [VLB] Headland HT216-32
 
* [ISA] Hercules
 
* [ISA] Hercules InColor
 
* [MCA] IBM 1MB SVGA Adapter/A (Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5428)
 
* [ISA] Image Manager 1024
 
* [ISA] Kasan Hangulmadang-16 VGA (Tseng ET4000AX)
 
* [PCI] Matrox Mystique
 
* [PCI] Matrox Mystique 220
 
* [ISA] Metheus Premier 928 (S3 86c928)
 
* [ISA] MDA
 
* [ISA] MDSI Genius
 
* [ISA] NCR NGA
 
* [PCI / VLB] Number Nine 9FX (S3 Trio64)
 
* [ISA] OAK OTI-037C
 
* [ISA] OAK OTI-067
 
* [ISA] OAK OTI-077
 
* [ISA] Olivetti OGC (GO708)
 
* [ISA] Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 (S3 86c911)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Paradise Bahamas 64 (S3 Vision864)
 
* [ISA] Paradise PVGA1A
 
* [ISA] Paradise WD90C11-LR
 
* [ISA] Paradise WD90C30-LR
 
* [MCA] Radius SVGA Multiview (HT209)
 
* [ISA] Realtek RTG3106
 
* [ISA] Plantronics ColorPlus
 
* [ISA] Professional Graphics Controller
 
* [VLB] S3 86c805
 
* [PCI] S3 Trio3D/2X
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 ViRGE (325)
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 ViRGE/DX
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 ViRGE/DX (VBE 2.0)
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 Vision864
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 Vision868
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 Trio32
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 Trio64
 
* [PCI / VLB] S3 Trio64V+
 
* [PCI] S3 Trio64V2/DX
 
* [ISA] Schetmash Iskra EGA (Cyrillic ROM)
 
* [ISA] Sigma Color 400
 
* [ISA] SPEA V7 Mirage (S3 86c801)
 
* [PCI] STB Nitro 64V (Cirrus Logic CL-GD 5446)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Trident TGUI9440
 
* [PCI] Trident TGUI9440AGi
 
* [VLB] Trident TGUI9400CXi
 
* [PCI] Trident TGUI9660XGi
 
* [PCI] Trident TGUI9680XGi
 
* [ISA] Trident TVGA8900B
 
* [ISA] Trident TVGA8900D
 
* [ISA] Trident TVGA9000B
 
* [ISA] Trigem Korean VGA (Tseng ET4000AX)
 
* [ISA] Tseng Labs ET2000
 
* [ISA / MCA] Tseng Labs ET4000AX
 
* [ISA] Tseng Labs ET4000/w32
 
* [ISA / VLB] Tseng Labs ET4000/w32i
 
* [PCI / VLB] Tseng Labs ET4000/w32p
 
* [PCI / VLB] Tseng Labs ET4000/w32p (Cardex)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Tseng Labs ET4000/w32p Rev. C (Cardex)
 
* [PCI / VLB] Tseng Labs ET4000/w32p (Diamond)
 
* [ISA] VGA
 
* [ISA] Video 7 VGA 1024i
 
* [ISA] Wyse 700
 
</div>
 
  
Various 3D accelerator cards (with SLI support) are also supported:
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
<div class="wikitable" style="-moz-column-width: 25em; -webkit-column-width: 25em; column-width: 25em; list-style-type: decimal;">
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! scope="col"|Name
* 3dfx Voodoo Graphics
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! scope="col"|Platform(s)
* 3dfx Voodoo 2
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! scope="col"|Latest Version
* Obsidian SB50 + Amethyst (2 TMUs)
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! scope="col"|[[Wikipedia:Family Computer Disk System|FDS]]
</div>
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! scope="col"|[[libretro|Libretro Core]]
 
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! scope="col"|[[Emulation Accuracy|Accuracy]]
Some models with fixed graphics adapters are also supported:
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! scope="col"|<abbr title="Free/Libre and Open-Source Software">FLOSS</abbr>
<div class="wikitable" style="-moz-column-width: 25em; -webkit-column-width: 25em; column-width: 25em; list-style-type: decimal;">
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! scope="col"|Active
* Amstrad MegaPC
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! scope="col"|[[Recommended Emulators|Recommended]]
* Amstrad PC1512
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* Amstrad PC1640
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|[[ares]]
* Amstrad PC2086
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|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS}}
* Amstrad PC3086
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|[https://github.com/higan-emu/ares/releases/ {{aresVer}}]
* Amstrad PPC512/640
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|{{✓}}
* Compaq Portable II
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|{{✗}}
* Compaq Portable III
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|?
* Commodore SL386SX
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|{{✓}}
* IBM PCjr
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|{{✓}}
* IBM PS/1 Model 2011
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|{{✗}}
* IBM PS/1 Model 2121
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* IBM PS/2 series
 
* IBM PS/ValuePoint 433DX/Si
 
* Olivetti M19
 
* Olivetti M24
 
* Packard Bell PB410A
 
* Packard Bell PB640
 
* Tandy 1000 series
 
* Toshiba T1200
 
* Toshiba T3100e
 
</div>
 
 
 
===Sound cards===
 
<div class="wikitable" style="-moz-column-width: 25em; -webkit-column-width: 25em; column-width: 25em; list-style-type: decimal;">
 
* [ISA / MCA] Adlib
 
* [ISA] Adlib Gold
 
* [ISA] Aztech Sound Galaxy Pro 16 AB (Washington)
 
* [ISA] Aztech Sound Galaxy Nova 16 Extra (Clinton)
 
* [ISA] Crystal CS4236B
 
* [PCI] Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1371)
 
* [ISA] Game Blaster / Creative Music System
 
* [ISA] Gravis UltraSound
 
* [ISA] Gravis UltraSound Max
 
* [ISA] Innovation SSI-2001
 
* [MCA] NCR Business Audio
 
* [ISA] Pro Audio Spectrum 16
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster 1.0 / 1.5 / 2.0
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster Pro v1 / v2
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster 16
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster 16 PnP
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster 32 PnP
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster AWE32 (not fully emulated)
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster AWE32 PnP (not fully emulated)
 
* [ISA] Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold
 
* [MCA] Sound Blaster MCV
 
* [PCI] Sound Blaster PCI 128
 
* [MCA] Sound Blaster Pro MCV
 
* [ISA] Windows Sound System
 
</div>
 
 
 
Some models with fixed sound hardware are also supported:
 
* PCjr and Tandy 1000 (PSG)
 
* Tandy 1000SL/2 (PSSJ)
 
* IBM PS/1 audio card
 
* Tyan Tsunami ATX (CS4297A)
 
* MSI MS-6168 (CS4297A)
 
 
 
Various MIDI synthesizer modules and interfaces are also supported:
 
* FluidSynth
 
* Roland MT-32
 
* Roland CM-32L
 
* Roland MPU-401
 
* System MIDI (through MIDI out device from host machine)
 
 
 
Two external audio devices are also supported:
 
* Covox Speech Thing
 
* Disney Sound Source
 
* Stereo LPT DAC
 
 
 
===Hard drive controllers===
 
<div class="wikitable" style="-moz-column-width: 25em; -webkit-column-width: 25em; column-width: 25em; list-style-type: decimal;">
 
* [MFM] IBM PC Fixed Disk Adapter
 
* [MFM] DTC 5150X
 
* [MFM] ST-11M
 
* [MFM] Western Digital WD1002A-WX1
 
* [MFM / RLL] IBM PC/AT Fixed Disk Adapter
 
* [MFM / RLL] Western Digital WD1003 AT
 
* [RLL] ST-11R
 
* [RLL] Western Digital WD1002A-27X
 
* [ISA] Adaptec AHA-154xA
 
* [ISA] Adaptec AHA-154xA
 
* [ISA] Adaptec AHA-154xB
 
* [ISA] Adaptec AHA-154xC
 
* [ISA] Adaptec AHA-154xCF
 
* [ISA] BusLogic BT-542B
 
* [ISA] BusLogic BT-542BH
 
* [ISA] BusLogic BT-545S
 
* [ISA] Generic WDC33C93
 
* [ISA] Longshine LCS-6821N
 
* [ISA] Rancho RT1000B
 
* [ISA] Sumo SCSI-AT
 
* [ISA] Trantor T130B
 
* [ESDI] IBM PC/AT ESDI Fixed Disk Controller
 
* [ESDI] Western Digital WD1007V-SE1
 
* [MCA] Adaptec AHA-1640
 
* [MCA] BusLogic BT-640A
 
* [MCA] IBM PS/2 SCSI
 
* [IDE] Acculogic XT-IDE
 
* [IDE] PC/AT IDE (w/ single-channel or dual-channel)
 
* [IDE] PC/AT XTIDE
 
* [IDE] PC/XT XTIDE
 
* [IDE] PS/2 AT XTIDE (1.1.5)
 
* [IDE] Western Digital WDXT-150 (XTA)
 
* [PCI] BusLogic BT-958D
 
* [PCI] NCR 53C810
 
* [PCI] NCR 53C815
 
* [PCI] NCR 53C820
 
* [PCI] NCR 53C825A
 
* [PCI] NCR 53C860
 
* [PCI] NCR 53C875
 
* [PCI] Tekram DC-390
 
* [PCI] PCI IDE Adapter (w/ single-channel or dual-channel)
 
* [VLB] BusLogic BT-445S
 
</div>
 
 
 
===Floppy drive controllers===
 
* DTK PII-151B floppy drive controller
 
* DTK PII-158 floppy drive controller
 
* Magitronic B215 XT-FDC controller
 
 
 
===Network cards===
 
Network cards can use either WinPcap or SLiRP support on the host system.
 
<div class="wikitable" style="-moz-column-width: 25em; -webkit-column-width: 25em; column-width: 25em; list-style-type: decimal;">
 
* [ISA] 3Com EtherLink II (3C503)
 
* [PCI] AMD PCNet-FAST III
 
* [ISA] AMD PCNet-ISA
 
* [ISA] AMD PCnet-ISA+
 
* [PCI] AMD PCNet-PCI II
 
* [VLB] AMD PCnet-VL
 
* [ISA] Novell NE1000
 
* [ISA] Novell NE2000
 
* [LPT] Parallel Line Internet Protocol
 
* [ISA] Racal Interlan EtherBlaster
 
* [ISA] Realtek RTL8019AS
 
* [PCI] Realtek RTL8029AS
 
* [ISA] Western Digital WD8003E
 
* [ISA] Western Digital WD8003EB
 
* [ISA] Western Digital WD8003EBT
 
</div>
 
 
 
===Printers===
 
* Generic Text printer
 
 
 
* Generic Epson ESC/P compatible printer
 
** Generic ESC/P 24-pin dot-matrix driver
 
** Epson SQ series (SQ-2550 recommended for grayscale)
 
** Epson LQ series (LQ-2550 recommended for color)
 
 
 
* Generic PostScript compatible printer
 
** Generic PostScript driver (recommended)
 
** Apple LaserWriter II series (IIg recommended for grayscale)
 
** Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 (color)
 
** Apple LaserWriter 16/600 PS (color)
 
** Apple Color LW 12/660 PS (recommended for color)
 
** Epson EPL-7500 and later (grayscale)
 
** QMS PS-800 and later (grayscale)
 
** QMS ColorScript 100 and later (color)
 
 
 
===Joysticks===
 
* Standard joysticks
 
* 4-axis joystick
 
* CH Flightstick Pro
 
* Microsoft SideWinder Pad
 
* Thrustmaster Flight Control System
 
 
 
===Other hardwares===
 
* DTK PII-147 Hexa I/O Plus
 
* Everex EV-159 RAM 3000 Deluxe
 
* Everex EV-170 Magic I/O
 
* IBM PC/XT memory expansion boards
 
* IBM PC/AT memory expansion boards
 
* Iomega ZIP
 
* Paradise Systems 5-PAK
 
* PLIP Network
 
* Protection Dongle for Savage Quest
 
* Micro Mainframe EMS-5150(T)
 
</div>
 
 
 
==External links==
 
* [https://86box.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ Documentation] (On getting started with the emulator’s features and user interface.)
 
* [https://discord.com/invite/QXK9XTv Discord channel]
 
* [https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.ringoflightning.net/?nick=YouTube%3F#softhistory IRC channel]
 
* [https://twitter.com/86BoxEmulator Twitter] (Account started in March 2020. Lots of useful news, screenshots, test info, links to articles, videos & user reports on a monthly basis.)
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/86box YouTube channel] (First video uploaded in late January 2020.)
 
  
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[[User:BlaBlaCra|BlaBlaCra]] ([[User talk:BlaBlaCra|talk]]) 21:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
[[Category:Computers' emulators]]
 
[[Category:Windows emulation software‏‎]]
 

Revision as of 21:13, 11 October 2021

Why are Nintendulator, Nestopia and FCEUX recommended? I just tried out all the recommended emulators and Mesen and PuNES seem a lot better. Nintendulator doesn't load zip-files, has to be configurated to even start. All of them (Nintendulator, Nestopia, FCEUX) have complicated menu systems and configurations. Mesen is super easy to use, has better compatibility, auto updating, netplay and it even loads goodmerged-files. PuNES is not as good but supports rewinding so that I might get by.

Nestopia is still recommended primarily because of its availability as a Libretro core. Standalone is okay but puNES and Mesen are much better these days. If either of those two were to become Libretro cores then I couldn't see recommending Nestopia at all. As for FCEUX and Nintendulator, I have no idea. -- Random Encounter (talk) 14:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

FCEUX still gets recc'ed based on debugging features. These things matter for homebrew. As for Nintendulator, not a damn clue. Goi~Yaas~Dinn (talk)

Note that Mesen, while it works on GNU/Linux, it's pretty awful due to a ton of stuttering and lag during gameplay, even with VSync turned on. puNES should be recommended over it for GNU/Linux users (and NEStopia UE for its libretro core). Syboxez (talk)

Some Issues

1. Can we cut the description of the FDS down to a line and keep all the talkative bits about it under its peripheral subheader? I realize I'm guilty of nearly doubling its number of lines, but that's before I read the whole page and discovered it already had a home.

2. There appears to be a dick-measuring contest going on in a footnote between proponents of mesen and puNES re the number of mappers each supports. Can I just say each supports mappers the other doesn't or would that be untrue?

3. The assertion that VC NES emulation is somehow accurate in any way (simply because Nintendo did it) I find highly suspect (considering what is known about their approach to other consoles such as the SNES and N64). Can anyone back that up?

I plan to do some other minor edits to polish, but first I wanted to clear this up. Goi~Yaas~Dinn (talk)


Pretty much no VC emulator is accurate, barring GBA on the 3DS since it uses hardware, and GBA on the Wii U is decent as well, due to being coded by a third party. Also would be nice if the FDS info was still on the page, just somewhere else. The FDS versions of many games were superior to the American cart releases, and it would be good for people to know that. Syboxez (talk)

I went ahead and finished editing and polishing. Thank you for your (somewhat belated) response. Goi~Yaas~Dinn (talk) 03:56, 25 July 2017 (EDT)

Adding ares

I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 2/4 star ratings (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:

Name Platform(s) Latest Version FDS Libretro Core Accuracy FLOSS Active Recommended
ares Windows Linux macOS v137 ?

BlaBlaCra (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)