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== Style ==
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* [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1|Old talk page archive]]
  
Could the admin change it to a nice simple darker style? It looks quite nice. It's the style of the old Wikia. - The Red Sniper.
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If you are looking for something to do, check the [[Getting involved]] page. There's also a [[Talk:Getting involved|Getting involved talk page]].
  
:Here's a darker style that I use: [http://userstyles.org/styles/97180/gametechwiki-emu-gen-dark Userstyles]. It's left default as a lot of people complained about the white on grey. --[[User:SonofUgly|SonofUgly]] ([[User talk:SonofUgly|talk]]) 17:54, 27 March 2014 (EDT)
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== Main Page Layout ==
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== Adding links to more content pages on the main page ==
Post what you want/don't want instead of changing it back and forth.
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I think it would improve the wiki and make it more accessible to everyone, if we added links on the main page to more content pages that don't have a link yet. I can't do it myself though, so I'd appreciate if someone else considered doing it. I have looked up all content pages at https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&hideredirects=1 and I have made a list of most of the ones that aren't yet linked on the main page, excluding all that focus on specific emulators and a few more that I thought were better off staying inside other links. Also, there's at least 2 pages on this list that aren't linked from any other page, [[GPD_XD_Devices]] and [[Thread_template]]. Here's the list:
*[http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=6807 Murrigan's change]
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*[http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=6836 3 Columns]
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*[[Acorn]]
*[http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=6840 Other]
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*<s>[[Apple IIGS emulators]]</s>
Personally don't think it should have any fixed widths.<br>If you want to test something, make a new page like [[Main Page Test 1]] or take a screenshot of the preview. --[[User:SonofUgly|SonofUgly]] ([[User talk:SonofUgly|talk]]) 17:15, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
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*<s>[[Apply ROM Hacks and Translations]]</s>
: All right then. I claim  [[Main Page Test 1]] as mine. [[User:Jackos|Jackos]] ([[User talk:Jackos|talk]]) 17:25, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
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*<s>[[Building RetroArch]]</s>
:: It's done. I guess. --[[User:Jackos|Jackos]] ([[User talk:Jackos|talk]]) 19:03, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
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*<s>[[Commodore]]</s>
:Might also want to add [http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=6841 this one], which is basically the last one you listed with the unified headers I made for the first one (uncentered). Which admittedly doesn't look too bad, but I'll leave it up to others to decide. [[User:Murrigan|Murrigan]] ([[User talk:Murrigan|talk]]) 17:26, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
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*<s>[[Comparison of Emulator Frontends]]</s>
I like the unified header one as well, but maybe do something with that picture along the lines of http://i.imgur.com/sj0R8gw.png
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*<s>[[Decapping]]</s>
This was the first one that changed and it just doesn't look good on my monitor http://i.imgur.com/fFhlMcu.png [[User:Special|Special]]
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*<s>[[Discrete Circuitry-Based Arcade Games]]</s>
:See, that's why fixed width is probably a good thing (admittedly I dun goof'd originally when I took that away on the [http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=6806 original edit], of course); having it stretch to ANY width will make things look sparse. [[User:Murrigan|Murrigan]] ([[User talk:Murrigan|talk]]) 17:41, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
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*[[DualShock 3]]
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*[[DualShock 4]]
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*<s>[[Dummies Guide: RetroArch]]</s>
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*<s>[[Dynamic recompilation]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulator Problems FAQ]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on Switch]]</s>
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*<s>[[Famicom Color Palette]]</s>
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*<s>[[Flash]]</s>
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*[[GB/C Tests]]
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*[[GPD XD Devices]]
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*<s>[[Game problems FAQ]]</s>
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*[[GoodTools]]
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*[[Libretro]]
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*<s>[[Licensing]]</s>
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*<s>[[Overscan]]</s>
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*<s>[[PS1 Plugins]]</s>
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*[[PS1 Tests]]
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*<s>[[PSP Eboots]]</s>
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*<s>[[Port Forwarding Guide For Netplay]]</s>
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*[[RDI Halcyon]]
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*[[Recommended Emulators]]
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*[[SCP Driver Package]]
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*<s>[[Save Disk Space for ISOs]]</s>
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*<s>[[Scaling]]</s>
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*<s>[[Sega Pico]]</s>
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*<s>[[Source code]]</s>
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*<s>[[Super A'Can]]</s>
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*[[Thread template]]
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*<s>[[User Settings and Configs]]</s>
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*<s>[[Using RetroArch]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on Wii U]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on GameCube]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on PS1]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on Xbox]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on Xbox 360]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on Xbox One]]</s>
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*<s>[[Emulators on Dreamcast]]</s>
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*[[Emulators on Saturn]]
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-[[Special:Contributions/188.114.111.202|188.114.111.202]] 18:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Thanks. I'll start adding some. -[[User:Jpx|Jpx]] ([[User talk:Jpx|talk]]) 05:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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::Thank you. That was fast. -[[Special:Contributions/188.114.111.160|188.114.111.160]] 09:22, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::More of those have been added on [[MainPageWIP]] page. - [[User:WebMint|WebMint]] ([[User talk:WebMint|talk]]) 02:27, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
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== New main page ==
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I've been thinking about remaking the main page. I'll probably create a separate WIP page to test it out.
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There's mainly two reasons:
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* Make it easier to contribute to the wiki - this might be things like highlighting high priority tasks on the main page
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* Different layout of emulators - I've been thinking about separating console, computers and arcade emulators.
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Let me know if you got any suggestions. -[[User:Jpx|Jpx]] ([[User talk:Jpx|talk]]) 06:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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:Will it still be remade? - [[User:WebMint|WebMint]] ([[User talk:WebMint|talk]]) 17:17, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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== Quality control ==
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Some pages are of subpar quality or outdated. I think we need some better way of quality control.
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Perhaps something like Wikipedias [[wikipedia:wikipedia:Content_assessment|Content assessment]] & [[wikipedia:wikipedia:Vital_articles|Vital aritcles]] or something like PCGamingWiki?
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A way to go thru all pages, add a category or template and then be able to list all pages that needs fixing. Perhaps we should rate the quality of all pages? -[[User:Jpx|Jpx]] ([[User talk:Jpx|talk]]) 06:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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:[[Template:WIP|<nowiki>{{WIP}}</nowiki>]], [[Template:Outdated|<nowiki>{{Outdated}}</nowiki>]] and [[Template:stub|<nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki>]] take care of the real subpar ones, and for the rest I think it'd be best to keep it simple by either adding [[:Category:Article_complete|Category:Article_complete]] or [[:Category:Article_incomplete|Category:Article_incomplete]] to the page.
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:We should also have something to check against, so how about [[Emulation General Wiki:Guidelines]] as a guide. --[[User:SonofUgly|SonofUgly]] ([[User talk:SonofUgly|talk]]) 03:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
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== Data Loss (2021-07-03) ==
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Yesterday on the 2nd the wiki's database got corrupted, and I was unable to restore it. Due to an issue with mySQL logging, the server's drive was also completely full so backups of the database weren't being made. Because of these issues I've had to roll the wiki back to the most recent offline backup I had, which unfortunately is 6 months old. So to everyone who made edits in the past 6 months, I'm very sorry, I've lost those contributions.
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I believe I've fixed the issue with mySQL, and will be checking the server's status and making offline backups more regularly, as well as using a service to backup the server's instance in full. --[[User:SonofUgly|SonofUgly]] ([[User talk:SonofUgly|talk]]) 22:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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== TODO lists for each page? ==
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I think it'd be a good idea to add TODO lists to the talk pages of each console page. It'd help us keep track of things like which emulators need to be tested and added.
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Side note, is there a way we can test the accuracy of NES and FDS emulation? Like determine if accuracy is low, midrange, high, or cycle accurate? ~Charlie [[User:OrphanedPixel|OrphanedPixel]] ([[User talk:OrphanedPixel|talk]]) 20:05, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, on the Fightcade page, its title should be "Fightcade", not "FightCade", if it could be changed, thanks. -ludg1e
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https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/FightCade
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== iOS and touchHLE ==
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Should we get rid of iOS’s &amp;Dagger;? While it’s still in very early development, touchHLE is already able to run at least one commercial app and it looks very promising, but it’s still a far cry from what we usually would call mobile device emulation – it’s ''very'' high-level, and it’s more of an iOS substitute that runs alongside a CPU emulator. The iOS itself isn’t even planned to be supported. I personally think that the ability to run apps should alone be grounds to consider the iOS emulated, but I can see how that could be controversial. [[User:Rariteh|rariteh]] ([[User talk:Rariteh|talk]]) 05:42, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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It’s been a week and nobody replied, so, considering that systems like the PS4 and Super A’Can don’t have it even though the current state of their emulation is barely practical, I’ll take iOS’s off for now. [[User:Rariteh|rariteh]] ([[User talk:Rariteh|talk]]) 05:22, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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== Mouse Injector page for emulators ==
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Examples;
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https://github.com/garungorp/MouseInjectorDolphinDuck <br/>
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https://github.com/isJuhn/KAMI/ <br/>
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https://github.com/bkacjios/MouseInjectorDolphin/tags <br/>
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https://github.com/marinesciencedude/xenia-canary-mousehook <br/>
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https://github.com/emoose/xenia/releases
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Done. [[Controllers#Mouse_Injectors_for_Emulators]].
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== "Compatibility" column for each page? ==
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<s> Because most people confusing "Accuracy" with "Compatibility" actually, what do you guys think?
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Example;
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<div style="max-width:100%; overflow:auto;">
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|-
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! scope="col"|Name
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! scope="col"|Platform(s)
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! scope="col"|Latest Version
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! scope="col"|<abbr title="Game Boy and Game Boy Color backwards compatibility emulation for Game Boy Advance">GB/GBC</abbr>
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! scope="col"|NDS
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! scope="col"|[https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Game_Boy_Advance_emulators#Connectivity Single<br/>Pak]
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! scope="col"|[https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Game_Boy_Advance_emulators#Connectivity Multi<br/>Pak]
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! scope="col"|[https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Game_Boy_Advance_emulators#Connectivity Wireless]
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! scope="col"|[https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Game_Boy_Advance_emulators#GameCube_Connectivity GBA-to-GC]
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! scope="col"|[https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/GBA_e-Reader_emulators e-Reader]
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! scope="col"|[[libretro]]
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! scope="col"|[[Emulation Accuracy|Accuracy]]
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! scope="col"|Compatibility
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! scope="col"|<abbr title="Free/Libre and Open-Source Software">FLOSS</abbr>
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! scope="col"|Active
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! scope="col"|[[Recommended Emulators|Recommended]]
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|-
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!colspan="16"|PC /x86
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|-
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|[[mGBA]]
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|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS|FreeBSD|Web}}
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|[https://mgba.io/builds/1/ Dev builds]<br/> [https://mgba.io/downloads.html {{MGBAVer}}]
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|{{✓}} ||{{~}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}} <small>[https://mgba.io/timeline.html#IN+THE+FUTURE (WIP)]</small> ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||High ||[https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/MGBA High] ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
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|}
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</div>
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</s>
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 12:07, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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:I'm cool with it if others are, also you could remove the Libretro column since you added libretro to all the Latest Version columns. - [[User:OldManKain|OldManKain]] ([[User talk:OldManKain|talk]]) 05:28, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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== How about some drastic changes? ==
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How about no recommendation from now on? Also providing "compatibility" column instead of "accuracy" so there will be no confusion.<br/>
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I mean we're already providing info about [[PlayStation_emulators#Hardware_Features_and_Peripherals|hardware feature support, peripherals]], [[PlayStation_emulators#Arcade_variations|variations]], [[PlayStation_emulators#Enhancements|enhancements]] and compatibility. Wiki users should decide their own favorite, no? Otherwise, it will be total mess like [[Game_Boy/Game_Boy_Color_emulators#Emulators]].
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<div style="max-width:100%;overflow:auto;">
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
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! scope="col"|Name
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! scope="col"|Platform(s)
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! scope="col"|Version
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! scope="col"|<small>[[PlayStation_emulators#Arcade_variations|Arcade<br/>Variations]]</small>
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! scope="col"|<small>[[PlayStation_emulators#Hardware_Features_and_Peripherals|Hardware Features<br/>and Peripherals]]</small>
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! scope="col"|[[PlayStation_emulators#Enhancements|Enhancements]]
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! scope="col"|Compatibility
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! scope="col"|<abbr title="Free/Libre and Open-Source Software">FLOSS</abbr>
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! scope="col"|Active
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|-
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|[[DuckStation]]
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|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|Mac}}
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|[https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/releases/tag/preview Preview]<br />[https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/releases/tag/latest Latest]<br />[https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/releases/tag/legacy Legacy]<abbr title="If you are having problems with the new builds, you can use this one instead.">*</abbr><br/>[https://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/ <abbr title="Hard fork and open-source Libretro core implementation of DuckStation">SwanStation</abbr>]
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|{{✗}}
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|{{~}}
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|{{✓}}
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|~xx%<br/><small>of tested titles.</small>
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|{{✓}}
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|{{✓}}
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|-
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|[[Mednafen]]
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|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS|FreeBSD}}
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|[{{MednafenURL|releases/}} {{MednafenVer}}]<br/>[https://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/ <abbr title="This is port of Mednafen PSX core to the libretro API.">Beetle/Beetle HW</abbr>]
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|{{✗}}
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|{{~}}
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|{{~}}
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|~xx%<br/><small>of tested titles.</small>
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|{{✓}}
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|{{✓}}
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|-
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|[[XEBRA]]
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|align=left|{{Icon|Windows}}
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|[https://drhell.web.fc2.com/ps1/xebra221106.zip {{XebraVer}}]
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|{{✗}}
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|{{~}}
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|{{✗}}
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|~xx%<br/><small>of tested titles.</small>
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|{{✗}}
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|{{✓}}
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|}
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</div>
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 00:39, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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:I like combining "Arcade variations", "Hardware features and peripherals" and "Enhancements" into one column each. Compatibility column sounds good, but maybe keep accuracy. I don't like removing recommendations, instead we should remove some of the recommended on the GB page (and on other pages), try to keep it to as few as possible recommend by following the rules on the [[Recommended emulators]] page, should be around two-three recommended only. -[[User:Jpx|Jpx]] ([[User talk:Jpx|talk]]) 10:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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== "Pressure Sensitive Buttons" column for each page? ==
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Source: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_that_support_Pressure-Sensitive_Face_Buttons#Emulation
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<br/>Examples;
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<br/>https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=PlayStation_2_emulators&curid=372&diff=54766&oldid=54716
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<br/>https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=PlayStation_3_emulators&curid=382&diff=54765&oldid=54530
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<br/>[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 16:11, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
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== Why are x86 emulators placed on the Pong page? ==
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They used to have their own page and easily accessible. Now they are listed with Pong and other chips, and not even listed under the "Personal Computers" section (its namesake) of home page, which is where people look for PC emulators.
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Wouldn't it be better to create a specific x86 page?
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== Tamagotchi line for Bandai Handhelds or dedicated consoles section? ==
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<s>[https://tamagotchi.fandom.com/wiki/Tamagotchi_(franchise)#Releases This is a chronological list of all Tamagotchi virtual pets that have been released].<br/>
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[https://github.com/jcrona/tamatool tamatool] <br/>
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 22:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)</s> Done, thanks to;
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I made a stub page about its emulators. [[Tamagotchi]]
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[[User:Randname|Randname]] ([[User talk:Randname|talk]]) 09:17, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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== Brick Game & 9999 in 1 ==
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[https://retroconsoles.fandom.com/wiki/Brick_Game Fandom wiki: Brick Game]<br/>
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Anyone interested?<br/>
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<s> https://github.com/Chrscool8/Brick-Game-9999-in-1-for-Switch/tags <br/>
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.perseusgames.brickgame <br/>
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https://github.com/n0Live/BrickGame/tags <br/>
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https://github.com/premek/brick <br/>
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https://github.com/azya52/BrickEmuPy <br/>
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 22:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
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- The issue here is "Brick Game 9999-in-1" is a very vague name and they are like millions of variations of this kind of Tetris stuff back in the 1990s. It's better just listed in "Dedicated consoles" or "Strange & forgotten consoles" if decided to be included in this Wiki rather than having its own page or even in the Main Page. [[User:Randname|Randname]] ([[User talk:Randname|talk]]) 02:10, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
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+ Yeah I agree with you but these machines were quite popular in the 90s so i'm not entirely sure what should be done with it. [[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] 09:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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MAME now emulates [https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/11872 Brick Games 96-in-1 (E-23 Plus Mark II)]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZfDkckRGgs    [[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] 13:08, 25 December 2023 (UTC)</s><br/>
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;[[Dedicated_Consoles#Brick_Game|Done]].
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] 09:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Put "General Emulation" section first ==
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I recommend you put the "General Emulation" section to top as opposed to having these sections in alphabetical order since I believe "General Emulation" contains devices and systems much more people care about and are interested in and this also doesn't make the new design that much more foreign to the old one?
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*Was done, thanks.
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*Edit: WTF is the new sections design now? So many random stuff and big things like Android, iOS and etc. are sooo way down the bottom, the new design doesn't make good sense at all.
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== Endangered Category Rules ==
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To make sure this category doesn't bloated with too many Games, Software and Hardware, the rules below need to be followed.
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*Games, Software and Hardware must have their own page
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*They must be historically significant
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*Their page must give a reason why their significant & endangered
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*They must be Undumped and or Undocumented
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(Note about the last one: The concern is not that these Games, Software and Hardware are Unemulated \ Unsimulated, the concern is they haven't been dumped and or documented.)
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Any Games, Software or Hardware that don't pass the four rules check, gets be added to the [[Endangered list]]
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== adding "Protoweb" and "WaybackProxy" projects to "Not really emulators section? ==
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<s>These are quite useful for "PC operating systems (OS)" section ([[POS_(Pong_Consoles)_CPUs_and_Other_Chips#x86_CPUs|DOS-based, Windows 1.0x/2x/3x series]], [[Windows_95/98/ME_emulators|Windows 9x series]], [[Windows_2000/XP/Vista_emulators|Windows NT series]] and [[MacOS|MacOS]]). I'm not sure which section is the right place for these proxy projects.<br/>
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[https://github.com/richardg867/WaybackProxy WaybackProxy] <br/>
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[https://protoweb.org ProtoWeb]</s>
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[[Preservation_projects|Done]].
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 00:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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== OC column for each system? ==
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<s> Similar to "Texture/Sprite Replacement" and "RIR" columns i think now its time to add "OC" column for each of these pages;
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68000 Clock Divider for [[Sega_Genesis_emulators|Genesis]]: [https://old.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/15k4rcp/weekly_question_thread/jv7o5rw/ Supported by BlastEm and MAME].<br/>
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Adjusting blitter speed for [[Atari_Jaguar_emulators#Comparisons|Jaguar/Jaguar CD]]: Supported by BigPEmu.<br/>
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Adjusting CPU Clock Speed for [[3DO_emulators#Comparison|3DO]]: Supported by opera_libretro / 4DO. </br>
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Virtual cpu clock control for [[Xbox_emulators#Comparisons|original Xbox]]: Supported by xemu PR[1467].<br/>
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Extra scanlines of processing? for [[Nintendo_Entertainment_System_emulators|NES]] and [[Super_Nintendo_emulators|SNES]] emulators</s>
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Done. (see #enhancement section for each page)
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 17:02, 08 Aug 2023 (UTC)
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== Hybrid DVD player/gaming systems ==
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[[Wikipedia:Sixth_generation_of_video_game_consoles#Other_consoles|Nuon, Panasonic Q and PSX (DVR)]] needs to be in "hybrid" category, right?
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[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 04:41, 05 December 2023 (UTC)
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== win9x, dos or other "ancient" emulators ==
 +
 
 +
for example: [[NESticle|nesticle]] is still in the [[Nintendo_Entertainment_System_emulators]] page, i think we should only keep these older emulators in [[History_of_emulation]] and [[Emulators_on_DOS]] pages.
 +
[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 18:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
== New page for CD/DVD copy protection emulation ==
 +
 
 +
*[https://ccm.net/apps-sites/software/4147-enable-advanced-emulation-on-daemon-tools-lite/ Daemon Tools]
 +
*[https://github.com/Luca1991/DiscCheckEmu Luca1991's DiscCheckEmu] (only for disc checks, no support for disc-based protections)
 +
 
 +
Useful resources
 +
:[https://github.com/joncampbell123/dosbox-x/issues/211 DOSBox-X issue page: SafeDisc / SecuROM emulation for games]
 +
:[[Wikipedia:List of Compact Disc and DVD copy protection schemes]]
 +
 
 +
[[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 17:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
 
 +
== Changing latest version, active status, and download in tables ==
 +
*How about making some changes to how we present latest version and active status for emulators in tables?
 +
 
 +
Maybe include a date for the last update, like 2024-03-09?
 +
 
 +
Maybe use a template for the download links, so it's easily updated and can be mirrored on multiple pages?
 +
 
 +
Other suggestions? -[[User:Jpx|Jpx]] ([[User talk:Jpx|talk]]) 14:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
:*I like the idea, but I would like to know how we might create a template for the download links in the event that the links have distinct domain names and may dynamically change. [[User:Chipsum|<span style="letter-spacing:.1em;color:#212121;text-shadow:5px 1px 0 #ffb650,10px 2px 0 #62ffc5,15px 3px 0 #ff80bf,20px 4px 0 #ef5097,25px 5px 0 #6868ac">'''Chipsum'''</span>]] <sub>[[User_talk:Chipsum|<span>'''(✉️)'''</span>]]</sub> 18:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
::*I've been thinking the same thing actually, i've also been thinking the website could benefit from some minor design changes. For example, left and right columns are huge problem to the large tables, these wide columns making the large tables feel even more cumbersome. Even the [[MainPageWIP]] page utilizes these large columns: https://imgur.com/a/ZnBH3PA  [[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 17:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
:::*The right column is fixable, the left one is part of mediawiki default design, I am a webdev I can solve that but <s>I don't know who is the webmaster</s> it's up to [[User:SonofUgly|@SonofUgly]]. As for the tables I am wrapping them between <code><nowiki><div style="overflow-x:auto"></nowiki></code>, this will make the table responsive on mobile (and also on any viewport) it will create an overflow if it overflow's the page's container and adds horizontal scrolling bars on PC and on mobile you swap left and right to scroll the table (without any change to the page).[[User:Chipsum|<span style="letter-spacing:.1em;color:#212121;text-shadow:5px 1px 0 #ffb650,10px 2px 0 #62ffc5,15px 3px 0 #ff80bf,20px 4px 0 #ef5097,25px 5px 0 #6868ac">'''Chipsum'''</span>]] <sub>[[User_talk:Chipsum|<span>'''(✉️)'''</span>]]</sub> 12:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
== I propose this header colors and style ==
 +
 
 +
*So what do you say, I am thinking of removing the right td which contains the 4chan thread (and place it somewhere else)
 +
 
 +
{| style="width:100%; background:#E0F7FA; margin-top: 0.6em; border:1px solid #00BCD4; border-collapse: collapse;"
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| style="width:100%; color:#000;" |
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<!--        "WELCOME TO EMUGEN" AND ARTICLE COUNT        -->
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{| style="width: 100%; border:none; background:none;"
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| style="text-align:center; color:#03A9F4;" |
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<div style="font-size:2em; border:none; padding:.1em; color:#009688;">Welcome to the Emulation General Wiki</div>
 +
<div style="top:+0.2em; font-size:1em;">The wiki dedicated to all things emulation.</div>
 +
<div id="articlecount" style="width:100%; text-align:center; font-size:1em;">There are <span style="font-size:1.6em"><b><i>[[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]]</i></b></span> articles already. Why not explore them?</div>
 +
|}
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 +
<!--        PORTAL LIST ON RIGHT-HAND SIDE        -->
 +
<!--| style="min-width: 140px; font-size:1em; border-left: 1px solid #00BCD4; padding-right: 8px;" |
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*'''[https://4chan.org/vg/emugen Current thread]''' ([{{ArchiveURL}}Archive])-->
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|}
 +
[[User:Chipsum|<span style="letter-spacing:.1em;color:#212121;text-shadow:5px 1px 0 #ffb650,10px 2px 0 #62ffc5,15px 3px 0 #ff80bf,20px 4px 0 #ef5097,25px 5px 0 #6868ac">'''Chipsum'''</span>]] <sub>[[User_talk:Chipsum|<span>'''(✉️)'''</span>]]</sub> 21:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
*I tried to design an alternative logo, what do you say[https://i.imgur.com/QZQwGHA.png][https://i.imgur.com/oMeHXqs.png] [[User:Chipsum|<span style="letter-spacing:.1em;color:#212121;text-shadow:5px 1px 0 #ffb650,10px 2px 0 #62ffc5,15px 3px 0 #ff80bf,20px 4px 0 #ef5097,25px 5px 0 #6868ac">'''Chipsum'''</span>]] <sub>[[User_talk:Chipsum|<span>'''(✉️)'''</span>]]</sub> 14:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
<br>
 +
*Some of the most beautifully designed mediawikis, to be inspired by [https://niwanetwork.org/members/]
 +
*I suggest that the icons precede the name:
 +
<div style="background: #f1e7fb; border:1px solid #dcccef; margin: 8px; text-align:left; padding: 0 8px; font-weight: bold; font-size: 16px;">[[File:Philips shield (2013).png|30px]] [[Philips]]</div>
 +
[[User:Chipsum|<span style="letter-spacing:.1em;color:#212121;text-shadow:5px 1px 0 #ffb650,10px 2px 0 #62ffc5,15px 3px 0 #ff80bf,20px 4px 0 #ef5097,25px 5px 0 #6868ac">'''Chipsum'''</span>]] <sub>[[User_talk:Chipsum|<span>'''(✉️)'''</span>]]</sub> 16:49, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
:+The icon you suggested looks great, I like it. [[User:Ahayri|Ahayri]] ([[User talk:Ahayri|talk]]) 16:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
::Thank you [[User:Ahayri|@Ahayri]] ! glad you liked it. [[User:Chipsum|<span style="letter-spacing:.1em;color:#212121;text-shadow:5px 1px 0 #ffb650,10px 2px 0 #62ffc5,15px 3px 0 #ff80bf,20px 4px 0 #ef5097,25px 5px 0 #6868ac">'''Chipsum'''</span>]] <sub>[[User_talk:Chipsum|<span>'''(✉️)'''</span>]]</sub> 18:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 +
 
 +
== InfoBox ==
 +
 
 +
<div>
 +
I suggest this style for infoboxes, colors are demonstrative only you can change them or probably we make a variety of colored infoboxes,<br>
 +
I replaced the caption with a span inside the infobox, with a background color to make it look like a caption.<br>
 +
if all is ok, we still need the confirmation of the webmaster, since it's not possible to change the css of an infobox without accessing css files for it.
 +
<div>
 +
 
 +
<table style="
 +
float: right;
 +
width: 300px;
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font-size: 1em;
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text-align: left;
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border: 1px solid #00BCD4; /* COLORS TO CHANGE AS YOU MAY LIKE :D */
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margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em;
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background-color: #E0F7FA;
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padding: 1em;
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border-radius: 20px;
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box-shadow: 0px 6px 0px 0px #00BCD4;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3">
 +
 
 +
 
 +
    <tr>
 +
        <td colspan="2" style="text-align:center"><span
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                style="font-size: 1.6em; font-weight: bold; padding: 0.3em; border-radius: 0.3em; background-color: #00bcd4; display: block; color: white">Android</span>
 +
            <!-- 1.6em for the caption/emulator name, Inside the box --></td>
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    </tr>
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    <tr>
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        <td colspan="2" style="text-align:center;">[[File:Android.png|210px]]</td> <!-- LOGO -->
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    </tr>
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 +
    <tr>
 +
        <th>Developer</th>
 +
        <td>Google<br> Open Handset Alliance</td>
 +
    </tr>
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 +
    <tr>
 +
        <th>Release date</th>
 +
        <td>2008</td>
 +
    </tr>
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 +
    <tr>
 +
        <th>Emulated</th>
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        <td data-sort-value="Yes" style="background: #D2FFD2; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;"
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            class="table-yes2">✓</td>
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    </tr>
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    <tr style="font-size:0; line-height:0;">
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        <td style="width:50%; padding:0">
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    </tr>
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</table>
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<hr>
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[[User:Chipsum|<span style="color:#212121;text-shadow:-15px -10px 0 #009688,-25px -25px 0 #4CAF50,0 0 8px #00BCD4, -15px 10px 0 #03A9F4,-25px 25px 0 #2196F3">'''Chipsum'''</span>]] <sub>[[User_talk:Chipsum|<span>'''(✉️)'''</span>]]</sub> 11:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 11:16, 18 March 2024

If you are looking for something to do, check the Getting involved page. There's also a Getting involved talk page.


Adding links to more content pages on the main page

I think it would improve the wiki and make it more accessible to everyone, if we added links on the main page to more content pages that don't have a link yet. I can't do it myself though, so I'd appreciate if someone else considered doing it. I have looked up all content pages at https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&hideredirects=1 and I have made a list of most of the ones that aren't yet linked on the main page, excluding all that focus on specific emulators and a few more that I thought were better off staying inside other links. Also, there's at least 2 pages on this list that aren't linked from any other page, GPD_XD_Devices and Thread_template. Here's the list:

-188.114.111.202 18:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll start adding some. -Jpx (talk) 05:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. That was fast. -188.114.111.160 09:22, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
More of those have been added on MainPageWIP page. - WebMint (talk) 02:27, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

New main page

I've been thinking about remaking the main page. I'll probably create a separate WIP page to test it out. There's mainly two reasons:

  • Make it easier to contribute to the wiki - this might be things like highlighting high priority tasks on the main page
  • Different layout of emulators - I've been thinking about separating console, computers and arcade emulators.

Let me know if you got any suggestions. -Jpx (talk) 06:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Will it still be remade? - WebMint (talk) 17:17, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Quality control

Some pages are of subpar quality or outdated. I think we need some better way of quality control. Perhaps something like Wikipedias Content assessment & Vital aritcles or something like PCGamingWiki? A way to go thru all pages, add a category or template and then be able to list all pages that needs fixing. Perhaps we should rate the quality of all pages? -Jpx (talk) 06:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

{{WIP}}, {{Outdated}} and {{stub}} take care of the real subpar ones, and for the rest I think it'd be best to keep it simple by either adding Category:Article_complete or Category:Article_incomplete to the page.
We should also have something to check against, so how about Emulation General Wiki:Guidelines as a guide. --SonofUgly (talk) 03:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Data Loss (2021-07-03)

Yesterday on the 2nd the wiki's database got corrupted, and I was unable to restore it. Due to an issue with mySQL logging, the server's drive was also completely full so backups of the database weren't being made. Because of these issues I've had to roll the wiki back to the most recent offline backup I had, which unfortunately is 6 months old. So to everyone who made edits in the past 6 months, I'm very sorry, I've lost those contributions.

I believe I've fixed the issue with mySQL, and will be checking the server's status and making offline backups more regularly, as well as using a service to backup the server's instance in full. --SonofUgly (talk) 22:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

TODO lists for each page?

I think it'd be a good idea to add TODO lists to the talk pages of each console page. It'd help us keep track of things like which emulators need to be tested and added.

Side note, is there a way we can test the accuracy of NES and FDS emulation? Like determine if accuracy is low, midrange, high, or cycle accurate? ~Charlie OrphanedPixel (talk) 20:05, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, on the Fightcade page, its title should be "Fightcade", not "FightCade", if it could be changed, thanks. -ludg1e https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/FightCade

iOS and touchHLE

Should we get rid of iOS’s &Dagger;? While it’s still in very early development, touchHLE is already able to run at least one commercial app and it looks very promising, but it’s still a far cry from what we usually would call mobile device emulation – it’s very high-level, and it’s more of an iOS substitute that runs alongside a CPU emulator. The iOS itself isn’t even planned to be supported. I personally think that the ability to run apps should alone be grounds to consider the iOS emulated, but I can see how that could be controversial. rariteh (talk) 05:42, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

It’s been a week and nobody replied, so, considering that systems like the PS4 and Super A’Can don’t have it even though the current state of their emulation is barely practical, I’ll take iOS’s off for now. rariteh (talk) 05:22, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Mouse Injector page for emulators

Examples; https://github.com/garungorp/MouseInjectorDolphinDuck
https://github.com/isJuhn/KAMI/
https://github.com/bkacjios/MouseInjectorDolphin/tags
https://github.com/marinesciencedude/xenia-canary-mousehook
https://github.com/emoose/xenia/releases

Done. Controllers#Mouse_Injectors_for_Emulators.

"Compatibility" column for each page?

Because most people confusing "Accuracy" with "Compatibility" actually, what do you guys think?

Example;

Name Platform(s) Latest Version GB/GBC NDS Single
Pak
Multi
Pak
Wireless GBA-to-GC e-Reader libretro Accuracy Compatibility FLOSS Active Recommended
PC /x86
mGBA Windows Linux macOS FreeBSD Web Dev builds
0.10.3
~ (WIP) High High

Ahayri (talk) 12:07, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm cool with it if others are, also you could remove the Libretro column since you added libretro to all the Latest Version columns. - OldManKain (talk) 05:28, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

How about some drastic changes?

How about no recommendation from now on? Also providing "compatibility" column instead of "accuracy" so there will be no confusion.
I mean we're already providing info about hardware feature support, peripherals, variations, enhancements and compatibility. Wiki users should decide their own favorite, no? Otherwise, it will be total mess like Game_Boy/Game_Boy_Color_emulators#Emulators.

Name Platform(s) Version Arcade
Variations
Hardware Features
and Peripherals
Enhancements Compatibility FLOSS Active
DuckStation Windows Linux macOS Preview
Latest
Legacy*
SwanStation
~ ~xx%
of tested titles.
Mednafen Windows Linux macOS FreeBSD 1.32.0-UNSTABLE
Beetle/Beetle HW
~ ~ ~xx%
of tested titles.
XEBRA Windows v221106 ~ ~xx%
of tested titles.

Ahayri (talk) 00:39, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

I like combining "Arcade variations", "Hardware features and peripherals" and "Enhancements" into one column each. Compatibility column sounds good, but maybe keep accuracy. I don't like removing recommendations, instead we should remove some of the recommended on the GB page (and on other pages), try to keep it to as few as possible recommend by following the rules on the Recommended emulators page, should be around two-three recommended only. -Jpx (talk) 10:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

.

"Pressure Sensitive Buttons" column for each page?

Source: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_that_support_Pressure-Sensitive_Face_Buttons#Emulation
Examples;
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=PlayStation_2_emulators&curid=372&diff=54766&oldid=54716
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php?title=PlayStation_3_emulators&curid=382&diff=54765&oldid=54530
Ahayri (talk) 16:11, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Why are x86 emulators placed on the Pong page?

They used to have their own page and easily accessible. Now they are listed with Pong and other chips, and not even listed under the "Personal Computers" section (its namesake) of home page, which is where people look for PC emulators.

Wouldn't it be better to create a specific x86 page?

Tamagotchi line for Bandai Handhelds or dedicated consoles section?

This is a chronological list of all Tamagotchi virtual pets that have been released.
tamatool
Ahayri (talk) 22:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Done, thanks to;

I made a stub page about its emulators. Tamagotchi

Randname (talk) 09:17, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Brick Game & 9999 in 1

Fandom wiki: Brick Game
Anyone interested?
https://github.com/Chrscool8/Brick-Game-9999-in-1-for-Switch/tags
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.perseusgames.brickgame
https://github.com/n0Live/BrickGame/tags
https://github.com/premek/brick
https://github.com/azya52/BrickEmuPy
Ahayri (talk) 22:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

- The issue here is "Brick Game 9999-in-1" is a very vague name and they are like millions of variations of this kind of Tetris stuff back in the 1990s. It's better just listed in "Dedicated consoles" or "Strange & forgotten consoles" if decided to be included in this Wiki rather than having its own page or even in the Main Page. Randname (talk) 02:10, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

+ Yeah I agree with you but these machines were quite popular in the 90s so i'm not entirely sure what should be done with it. Ahayri 09:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

MAME now emulates Brick Games 96-in-1 (E-23 Plus Mark II): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZfDkckRGgs Ahayri 13:08, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Done.

Ahayri 09:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Put "General Emulation" section first

I recommend you put the "General Emulation" section to top as opposed to having these sections in alphabetical order since I believe "General Emulation" contains devices and systems much more people care about and are interested in and this also doesn't make the new design that much more foreign to the old one?

  • Was done, thanks.
  • Edit: WTF is the new sections design now? So many random stuff and big things like Android, iOS and etc. are sooo way down the bottom, the new design doesn't make good sense at all.

Endangered Category Rules

To make sure this category doesn't bloated with too many Games, Software and Hardware, the rules below need to be followed.

  • Games, Software and Hardware must have their own page
  • They must be historically significant
  • Their page must give a reason why their significant & endangered
  • They must be Undumped and or Undocumented

(Note about the last one: The concern is not that these Games, Software and Hardware are Unemulated \ Unsimulated, the concern is they haven't been dumped and or documented.)

Any Games, Software or Hardware that don't pass the four rules check, gets be added to the Endangered list

adding "Protoweb" and "WaybackProxy" projects to "Not really emulators section?

These are quite useful for "PC operating systems (OS)" section (DOS-based, Windows 1.0x/2x/3x series, Windows 9x series, Windows NT series and MacOS). I'm not sure which section is the right place for these proxy projects.

WaybackProxy
ProtoWeb

Done.

Ahayri (talk) 00:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

OC column for each system?

Similar to "Texture/Sprite Replacement" and "RIR" columns i think now its time to add "OC" column for each of these pages;

68000 Clock Divider for Genesis: Supported by BlastEm and MAME.
Adjusting blitter speed for Jaguar/Jaguar CD: Supported by BigPEmu.
Adjusting CPU Clock Speed for 3DO: Supported by opera_libretro / 4DO.
Virtual cpu clock control for original Xbox: Supported by xemu PR[1467].
Extra scanlines of processing? for NES and SNES emulators

Done. (see #enhancement section for each page)

Ahayri (talk) 17:02, 08 Aug 2023 (UTC)

Hybrid DVD player/gaming systems

Nuon, Panasonic Q and PSX (DVR) needs to be in "hybrid" category, right?

Ahayri (talk) 04:41, 05 December 2023 (UTC)

win9x, dos or other "ancient" emulators

for example: nesticle is still in the Nintendo_Entertainment_System_emulators page, i think we should only keep these older emulators in History_of_emulation and Emulators_on_DOS pages. Ahayri (talk) 18:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

New page for CD/DVD copy protection emulation

Useful resources

DOSBox-X issue page: SafeDisc / SecuROM emulation for games
Wikipedia:List of Compact Disc and DVD copy protection schemes

Ahayri (talk) 17:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


Changing latest version, active status, and download in tables

  • How about making some changes to how we present latest version and active status for emulators in tables?

Maybe include a date for the last update, like 2024-03-09?

Maybe use a template for the download links, so it's easily updated and can be mirrored on multiple pages?

Other suggestions? -Jpx (talk) 14:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

  • I like the idea, but I would like to know how we might create a template for the download links in the event that the links have distinct domain names and may dynamically change. Chipsum (✉️) 18:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
  • I've been thinking the same thing actually, i've also been thinking the website could benefit from some minor design changes. For example, left and right columns are huge problem to the large tables, these wide columns making the large tables feel even more cumbersome. Even the MainPageWIP page utilizes these large columns: https://imgur.com/a/ZnBH3PA Ahayri (talk) 17:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  • The right column is fixable, the left one is part of mediawiki default design, I am a webdev I can solve that but I don't know who is the webmaster it's up to @SonofUgly. As for the tables I am wrapping them between <div style="overflow-x:auto">, this will make the table responsive on mobile (and also on any viewport) it will create an overflow if it overflow's the page's container and adds horizontal scrolling bars on PC and on mobile you swap left and right to scroll the table (without any change to the page).Chipsum (✉️) 12:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

I propose this header colors and style

  • So what do you say, I am thinking of removing the right td which contains the 4chan thread (and place it somewhere else)
Welcome to the Emulation General Wiki
The wiki dedicated to all things emulation.
There are 713 articles already. Why not explore them?

Chipsum (✉️) 21:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)


  • Some of the most beautifully designed mediawikis, to be inspired by [3]
  • I suggest that the icons precede the name:
Philips shield (2013).png Philips

Chipsum (✉️) 16:49, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

+The icon you suggested looks great, I like it. Ahayri (talk) 16:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you @Ahayri ! glad you liked it. Chipsum (✉️) 18:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

InfoBox

I suggest this style for infoboxes, colors are demonstrative only you can change them or probably we make a variety of colored infoboxes,
I replaced the caption with a span inside the infobox, with a background color to make it look like a caption.
if all is ok, we still need the confirmation of the webmaster, since it's not possible to change the css of an infobox without accessing css files for it.

Android
Android.png
Developer Google
Open Handset Alliance
Release date 2008
Emulated

Chipsum (✉️) 11:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)