Difference between pages "Dolphin" and "Talk:Nintendo Entertainment System emulators"

From Emulation General Wiki
(Difference between pages)
Jump to navigation Jump to search
 
m (Adding ares)
 
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Infobox emulator
+
Why are Nintendulator, Nestopia and FCEUX recommended?
|title = Dolphin
+
I just tried out all the recommended emulators and Mesen and PuNES seem a lot better. Nintendulator doesn't load zip-files, has to be configurated to even start. All of them (Nintendulator, Nestopia, FCEUX) have complicated menu systems and configurations. Mesen is super easy to use, has better compatibility, auto updating, netplay and it even loads goodmerged-files. PuNES is not as good but supports rewinding so that I might get by.
|logo = Dolphin-4.0.png
+
:Nestopia is still recommended primarily because of its availability as a Libretro core.  Standalone is okay but puNES and Mesen are much better these days.  If either of those two were to become Libretro cores then I couldn't see recommending Nestopia at all.  As for FCEUX and Nintendulator, I have no idea.  -- [[User:Random Encounter|Random Encounter]] ([[User talk:Random Encounter|talk]]) 14:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
|logowidth = 165
 
|last-version = {{DolphinVer}} <small>(Stable)</small>
 
|active = Yes
 
|fate =
 
|platform = Windows, Linux, macOS, [[Android emulators|Android]]
 
|target = [[GameCube emulators|GameCube]] and [[Wii emulators|Wii]]
 
|developer = [https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/graphs/contributors Dolphin Team]
 
|website = [https://dolphin-emu.org/ Dolphin-emu.org]
 
|source = [https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin GitHub]
 
}}
 
  
'''Dolphin''' is an open-source emulator for the [[GameCube emulators|GameCube]] and [[Wii emulators|Wii]] which supports many extra features not present on the original consoles. Though early development was supported by a very active homebrew scene led by fail0verflow precursor Team Twiizers, proper emulation is still underway as of 2018 and improvements are still being made as Wii games continue to have issues.
+
FCEUX still gets recc'ed based on debugging features. These things matter for homebrew. As for Nintendulator, not a damn clue. [[User:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|Goi~Yaas~Dinn]] ([[User talk:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|talk]])
  
Dolphin's official website, dolphin-emu.org, also runs a blog with monthly progress reports, tracking pull requests from contributors, and providing comprehensive and in-depth feature articles. Another site that has been confused for the real one, dolphin-emulator.com, has no connection to the project and only hosts builds going up to 4.0.
+
Note that Mesen, while it works on GNU/Linux, it's pretty awful due to a ton of stuttering and lag during gameplay, even with VSync turned on. puNES should be recommended over it for GNU/Linux users (and NEStopia UE for its libretro core). [[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]])
  
==Downloads==
+
== Some Issues ==
* '''[https://dolphin-emu.org/download/ Official builds (with development versions)]''' (Windows x86_64, macOS, Android ARMv8/AArch64)
 
* [https://github.com/SonofUgly/dolphin/releases Unofficial emulated Wii MotionPlus build] ([https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-emulated-motion-plus-unofficial Original thread])
 
* [https://dolphin-emu.org/download/list/Triforce/1/ Dolphin branch] with [https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Triforce Triforce] support
 
* [http://www.mediafire.com/?66hh53x9nczaun6 DSP-LLE files]
 
  
==Recommended setup==
+
1. Can we cut the description of the FDS down to a line and keep all the talkative bits about it under its peripheral subheader? I realize I'm guilty of nearly doubling its number of lines, but that's before I read the whole page and discovered it already had a home.
===System requirements===
 
* CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 3 GHz, AMD Phenom II X4 955<ref>https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-new-dolphin-cpu-benchmark-no-game-required</ref> or better
 
* GPU: DirectX 11.1 or OpenGL 4.4 support or better
 
* RAM: At least 2&nbsp;GB
 
  
===Controllers===
+
2. There appears to be a dick-measuring contest going on in a footnote between proponents of mesen and puNES re the number of mappers each supports. Can I just say each supports mappers the other doesn't or would that be untrue?
* [https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Configuring_Controllers#GameCube_Controller DualShock 3/Xbox 360 controller]
 
* [https://wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_Working_Bluetooth_Devices USB Bluetooth adapter]
 
* [https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Configuring_Controllers#Wii_Remote_.22Wiimote.22 Wiimote] (and MotionPlus for games that require it)
 
* Nunchuk
 
* Wireless Sensor Bar
 
  
==Netplay==
+
3. The assertion that VC NES emulation is somehow accurate in any way (simply because Nintendo did it) I find highly suspect (considering what is known about their approach to other consoles such as the SNES and N64). Can anyone back that up?
{{Main|Dolphin Online}}
 
  
==Widescreen==
+
I plan to do some other minor edits to polish, but first I wanted to clear this up. [[User:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|Goi~Yaas~Dinn]] ([[User talk:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|talk]])
[[File:Dolphin_Swiss.gif|200px|thumb|right|Instructional animation on how to use Swiss with Dolphin. Click to view.]]
 
Dolphin has support for widescreen output and can override the aspect ratio of the original game. However, this is a hack that rarely works without issues. To get widescreen fully natively, try [[Emulator_Files#GameCube.2FWii|Swiss]]. This can even be run on a real GameCube/Wii if desired.
 
  
==Guides and info==
 
* [https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/guides/performance-guide/ Performance Guide]
 
* [https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Main_Page Dolphin Wiki & Game Specific Guides]
 
* [https://dolphin-emu.org/docs/guides/netplay-guide/ Netplay Guide]
 
* [http://ngemu.com/threads/how-to-use-gecko-codes-in-dolphin-r6976.141144/ Using Gecko Codes]
 
* [https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/ Forums]
 
* [https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=DA2FE7FDA6EB085E!107&app=Excel&authkey=!ALQ0-tZv6Pc_h84 Wind Waker Benchmark], [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AunYlOAfGABxdFQ0UzJyTFAxbzZhYWtGcGwySlRFa1E#gid=0 POV-Ray Benchmark], and [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=1k12sv1NXGGuSOY0NhsuONtRCte51GHKdgA7ciL76mBs#gid=0 lua-bench] - bottom of the pages to change tabs
 
  
==References==
+
Pretty much no VC emulator is accurate, barring GBA on the 3DS since it uses hardware, and GBA on the Wii U is decent as well, due to being coded by a third party. Also would be nice if the FDS info was still on the page, just somewhere else. The FDS versions of many games were superior to the American cart releases, and it would be good for people to know that. [[User:Syboxez|Syboxez]] ([[User talk:Syboxez|talk]])
{{reflist}}
 
  
[[Category:Emulators]]
+
I went ahead and finished editing and polishing. Thank you for your (somewhat belated) response. [[User:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|Goi~Yaas~Dinn]] ([[User talk:Goi~Yaas~Dinn|talk]]) 03:56, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
[[Category:Custom Assets]]
+
 
[[Category:Netplay]]
+
== Adding ares ==
[[Category:Linux emulation software]]
+
 
 +
I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 2/4 star ratings (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:
 +
 
 +
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
 +
! scope="col"|Name
 +
! scope="col"|Platform(s)
 +
! scope="col"|Latest Version
 +
! scope="col"|[[Wikipedia:Family Computer Disk System|FDS]]
 +
! scope="col"|[[libretro|Libretro Core]]
 +
! scope="col"|[[Emulation Accuracy|Accuracy]]
 +
! scope="col"|<abbr title="Free/Libre and Open-Source Software">FLOSS</abbr>
 +
! scope="col"|Active
 +
! scope="col"|[[Recommended Emulators|Recommended]]
 +
|-
 +
|[[ares]]
 +
|align=left|{{Icon|Windows|Linux|macOS}}
 +
|[https://github.com/higan-emu/ares/releases/ {{aresVer}}]
 +
|{{✓}}
 +
|{{✗}}
 +
|?
 +
|{{✓}}
 +
|{{✓}}
 +
|{{✗}}
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
[[User:BlaBlaCra|BlaBlaCra]] ([[User talk:BlaBlaCra|talk]]) 21:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:13, 11 October 2021

Why are Nintendulator, Nestopia and FCEUX recommended? I just tried out all the recommended emulators and Mesen and PuNES seem a lot better. Nintendulator doesn't load zip-files, has to be configurated to even start. All of them (Nintendulator, Nestopia, FCEUX) have complicated menu systems and configurations. Mesen is super easy to use, has better compatibility, auto updating, netplay and it even loads goodmerged-files. PuNES is not as good but supports rewinding so that I might get by.

Nestopia is still recommended primarily because of its availability as a Libretro core. Standalone is okay but puNES and Mesen are much better these days. If either of those two were to become Libretro cores then I couldn't see recommending Nestopia at all. As for FCEUX and Nintendulator, I have no idea. -- Random Encounter (talk) 14:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

FCEUX still gets recc'ed based on debugging features. These things matter for homebrew. As for Nintendulator, not a damn clue. Goi~Yaas~Dinn (talk)

Note that Mesen, while it works on GNU/Linux, it's pretty awful due to a ton of stuttering and lag during gameplay, even with VSync turned on. puNES should be recommended over it for GNU/Linux users (and NEStopia UE for its libretro core). Syboxez (talk)

Some Issues

1. Can we cut the description of the FDS down to a line and keep all the talkative bits about it under its peripheral subheader? I realize I'm guilty of nearly doubling its number of lines, but that's before I read the whole page and discovered it already had a home.

2. There appears to be a dick-measuring contest going on in a footnote between proponents of mesen and puNES re the number of mappers each supports. Can I just say each supports mappers the other doesn't or would that be untrue?

3. The assertion that VC NES emulation is somehow accurate in any way (simply because Nintendo did it) I find highly suspect (considering what is known about their approach to other consoles such as the SNES and N64). Can anyone back that up?

I plan to do some other minor edits to polish, but first I wanted to clear this up. Goi~Yaas~Dinn (talk)


Pretty much no VC emulator is accurate, barring GBA on the 3DS since it uses hardware, and GBA on the Wii U is decent as well, due to being coded by a third party. Also would be nice if the FDS info was still on the page, just somewhere else. The FDS versions of many games were superior to the American cart releases, and it would be good for people to know that. Syboxez (talk)

I went ahead and finished editing and polishing. Thank you for your (somewhat belated) response. Goi~Yaas~Dinn (talk) 03:56, 25 July 2017 (EDT)

Adding ares

I've been adding ares entries to all the relevant emulator pages, but this one is protected. ares gives itself a 2/4 star ratings (in terms of how many titles are playable, not actual accuracy), so it certainly would not be a recommended emulator, but I think it's still worth adding. I recommend something like this gets added:

Name Platform(s) Latest Version FDS Libretro Core Accuracy FLOSS Active Recommended
ares Windows Linux macOS v136 ?

BlaBlaCra (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)