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What makes mGBA a piece of shit? Without proof, that edit is useless.  
|title = Atari Jaguar
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:What makes mGBA good? Without proof, that edit is useless. Oh right tilt sensors or whatever, literally no fucks are given about such a feature. Have any of you actually tried this emulator? Because it's shit in almost every way, it has what, less ram usage, again literally no fucks as it's 20 fucking 15.
|logo = Atari-Jaguar-Console-Set.png
 
|developer = [[:Atari]]
 
|type = [[:Category:Consoles|Home video game console]]
 
|generation = [[:Category:Fifth-generation video game consoles|Fifth generation]]
 
|release = 1993
 
|discontinued = 1996
 
|predecessor = [[Atari 8-bit|Atari XEGS]]
 
|emulated = {{✓}}
 
}}
 
The '''Atari Jaguar''' (AJ) was a fifth generation home video game console produced by [[wikipedia:Atari|Atari]] in 1993. Despite the intense marketing efforts by Atari, the Jaguar is, in fact, a 32-bit console rather than 64-bit, as a whole; only one part of its two CPUs were 64-bit. The console would prove to be the final home console release for Atari, before releasing plug-and-play versions of their older games. There was also a CD addon called the '''Atari Jaguar CD''' (AJ-CD).
 
  
==Emulators==
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: http://i.imgur.com/debxmZ1.png vs. http://i.imgur.com/2XDhLEV.png  http://i.imgur.com/wEvOhPP.png vs. http://i.imgur.com/44Tbsmd.png -- See that frame rate, yeah and it fucking sounds terrible because of it too, and say what you will about the filter being used (eat me) but xBRZ4x should tax the emulator more no? And it still runs at 100%, mGBA with defaults can't even hit 50fps.
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
 
! scope="col"|Name
 
! scope="col"|Operating System(s)
 
! scope="col"|Latest version
 
! scope="col"|AJ-CD
 
! scope="col"|[[libretro|Libretro Core]]
 
! scope="col"|Active
 
! scope="col"|[[Recommended Emulators|Recommended]]
 
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! colspan="7"|PC
 
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|[[Phoenix]]
 
|Windows, Linux, macOS
 
|[http://www.arts-union.ru/node/23 2.8.JAG]
 
|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
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|Virtual Jaguar
 
|Windows, Linux, macOS
 
|[https://icculus.org/virtualjaguar/ 2.1.3]<br />[http://virtualjaguar.kicks-ass.net/builds/ Unofficial builds]<br />[https://github.com/mirror/virtualjaguar Git]
 
|{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} <small>(Git)</small> ||{{✓}}
 
|-
 
|[[MAME]]
 
|Multi-platform
 
|[http://www.mamedev.org/release.html {{MAMEVer}}]
 
|{{~}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
|[http://pt.emuunlim.com/index.htm Project Tempest]
 
|Windows
 
|[http://pt.emuunlim.com/index.htm 0.95]
 
|{{~}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✗}}
 
|-
 
! colspan="7"|Mobile
 
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|[[Phoenix|IrataJaguar]]
 
|[[Android emulators|Android]]
 
|[https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.vastness.altmer.iratajaguar 1.0.7]
 
|{{✗}} ||{{✗}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
|-
 
|[[MAME]]
 
|Multi-platform<ref name=libretro group=N>Only available on mobile as a libretro core.</ref>
 
|[http://www.mamedev.org/release.html {{MAMEVer}}]
 
|{{~}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}} ||{{✓}}
 
|}
 
<references group=N />
 
  
===Comparison===
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:Oh and mGBA option menus, LOL. http://i.imgur.com/3lE72OQ.png / http://i.imgur.com/fyBd5tL.png -- [[User:Special|Special]]
;[[Phoenix]]:A newer closed source emulator. More compatible than Virtual Jaguar. About 95% of Jaguar titles are compatible (full list available on [http://www.arts-union.ru/node/66 website]). No support for CD games yet. The PC version of the emulator is currently only available in Russian, but an [http://www.rlauncher.com/forum/showthread.php?4160-Help-with-3DO-Phoenix-2-8 English patch] is available.
 
;Virtual Jaguar:An open-source emulator based on the original by the same name. It has excellent accuracy and performance but behind Phoenix. Use the link given as "git" on this page and choose the most current version from there.
 
;[[MAME]]:Preliminary support. Some games boot but the emulation is far from perfect.
 
;Project Tempest:Was the first ever working Atari Jaguar emulator. It emulates some games, but most have issues. As its name suggests it was primarily made for Tempest 2000, with other games as secondary goals. Project Tempest is the first and only(?) Jaguar emulator that supports Jaguar CD games, but only two are compatible; Primal Rage and Baldies (the latter has sound distortion though). It has not been updated since 2004.
 
;[[Phoenix|IrataJaguar]]: The Phoenix emulation project is released as separate emulators for Android, this is the Jaguar version. Identical compatibility to PC version according to the author. Requires fast 64-bit CPU 2GHz+ or better for full speed.
 
  
== Resources ==
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::Plz enough with this edit war and name calling.
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::no$GBA can't even get the software rendered 3D GBA games right (even though it does GBA/GBA link cable and Boktai somewhat good). IDeaS, higan and MESS are so rudimentary it's not even funny. THOSE are emulators deserving the "not recommended" tag.
  
* [https://archive.org/details/AtariJaguar Full No-Intro romset 03-01-16]
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::mGBA and VBA-M are functional (both accuracy and speed, and mGBA has an even higher compatibility and a better cheat manager than VBA-M, but lacks customized hardware renders and those debug viewers for romhacking purposes -but if we started to care about those no$gba would be the best by far, huh?- so we can't say in absolute terms mGBA isn't recommended with a straight face). They both deserve the "recommended" tag, period.
* [https://archive.org/details/atarijaguarmanuals Console Manuals: Atari Jaguar]
 
  
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::: I don't see how they both support the recommended tag. Compared to mGBA, VBA-M is less accurate, less compatible and slower. That alone should ring alarm bells. [[User:Mudlord|Mudlord]] ([[User talk:Mudlord|talk]]) 23:26, 12 April 2016 (EDT)
  
[[Category:Consoles]]
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::Just imagine how laughable it would be to tag DeSMume as "not recommended" just because no$gba exists, even though DeSMume can open games no$gba simply can't. Compatibility isn't a "niche feature".
[[Category:Fifth-generation video game consoles]]
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[[Category:Atari consoles]]
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::If you have a beef with mGBA, just help with its direct competitor's article (VBA-M) and all the stuff that only it can do.
[[Category:Atari Jaguar emulators|*]]
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== VBA-M: Recommended Or Not? ==
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Since this edit war is going on, someone explain in detail why VBA-M is not recommended anymore and yet other similar emulators like SNES9X are still recommended. [[Special:Contributions/174.44.129.95|174.44.129.95]] 22:05, 28 January 2016 (EST)
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:Compared to mGBA, it's less accurate, less compatible, slower, and doesn't really offer any more features. Snes9x is still recommended as it's faster than bsnes/higan, and when it comes to standalones many prefer it's GUI over higan. --[[User:SonofUgly|SonofUgly]] ([[User talk:SonofUgly|talk]]) 22:46, 28 January 2016 (EST)
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::I might be biased, but I wouldnt recommend VBA-M with a 10 foot pole. [[User:Mudlord|Mudlord]] ([[User talk:Mudlord|talk]]) 23:23, 12 April 2016 (EDT)
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:::MY 2 cents: VBA-M has improved a lot, is still active developed and they are adding missing feature that mGBA supports. https://github.com/visualboyadvance-m/visualboyadvance-m/releases. Personal opinions: compared to higan gives a lot less headache with GBA emulation (frame sync vs audio sync) and a lot better performance. It may not accurate as mGBA and as higan, but for the avarage user, it may be the best alternative to mGBA. --[[Special:Contributions/212.216.160.13|212.216.160.13]] 08:30, 17 November 2018 (EST)
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== More Emulators ==
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Mednafen and Virtual Game Boy Advance (VGBA) do run Game Boy Advance ROMs.
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== What's the deal with MyBoy? ==
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There is no explanation for it being "Not Recommended", and that's weird cause it's pretty solid for what it is and you don't have to deal with the shitty controls and bloat that comes with RetroArch.
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== What about Virtual Boy Advance? ==
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Virtual Boy Advance is unreleased GB/C, VB, GBA, NDS, and 3DS emulator. Virtual Boy Advance is the unreleased mix of Gambatte, VBjin, VBA-M libretro, DeSmuME, No$GBA, VBA Link e-Reader and Citra. I think Virtual Boy Advance will be released 15 years later. --[[Special:Contributions/212.252.97.163|212.252.97.163]] ([[User talk:212.252.97.163|talk]])
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:The fuck? Virtual Boy Advance is '''NOT A VB NDS 3DS''' emulator and '''NOT A MIX OF GAMBATTE VBJIN VBA-M LIBRETRO DESMUME NO$GBA VBA LINK ER-THATS NOT EVEN A FUCKING EMULATOR?!''' --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 07:49, 5 November 2018 (EST)
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== Not yet emulated ==
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These systems have not been emulated yet, such as Xbox One, RDI Halcyon and Playdia.
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:Cool. This is the fucking GBA emulators. --[[User:LilShootDawg|LilShootDawg]] ([[User talk:LilShootDawg|talk]]) 10:24, 5 November 2018 (EST)
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== VBA "The original GBA emulator." ==
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Hi, I noticed that Visual Boy Advance is referred to as "The original GBA emulator." on this page. Is VBA the same emulator as GBAEmu which released in September 2000 before the GBA came out? https://www.zophar.net/gba/gbaemu.html [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.29|108.162.241.29]] 23:37, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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:No, [[VisualBoyAdvance#Versions|VBA was forked several times]], so calling it "the original" was meant to distinguish it from VBA-M, which is actively maintained. -[[User:FosterHaven|FosterHaven]] ([[User talk:FosterHaven|talk]]) 02:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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::In that case I would propose switching it to "The original VBA emulator." and adding some information about GBAEmu (as it is an interesting piece of history). [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.29|108.162.241.29]] 23:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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== mGBA & VBA-M ==
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I heard that mGBA is faster and more accurate than VBA-M. Also, the "best" version of VBA-M has a broken link so is no longer avaliable for download. Explain why it was more superior to the latest version.
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== Remove protection after data loss ==
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[[User:Lordlouckster|Lordlouckster]] ([[User talk:Lordlouckster|talk]]) 14:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Revision as of 14:10, 4 July 2021

What makes mGBA a piece of shit? Without proof, that edit is useless.

What makes mGBA good? Without proof, that edit is useless. Oh right tilt sensors or whatever, literally no fucks are given about such a feature. Have any of you actually tried this emulator? Because it's shit in almost every way, it has what, less ram usage, again literally no fucks as it's 20 fucking 15.
http://i.imgur.com/debxmZ1.png vs. http://i.imgur.com/2XDhLEV.png http://i.imgur.com/wEvOhPP.png vs. http://i.imgur.com/44Tbsmd.png -- See that frame rate, yeah and it fucking sounds terrible because of it too, and say what you will about the filter being used (eat me) but xBRZ4x should tax the emulator more no? And it still runs at 100%, mGBA with defaults can't even hit 50fps.
Oh and mGBA option menus, LOL. http://i.imgur.com/3lE72OQ.png / http://i.imgur.com/fyBd5tL.png -- Special
Plz enough with this edit war and name calling.
no$GBA can't even get the software rendered 3D GBA games right (even though it does GBA/GBA link cable and Boktai somewhat good). IDeaS, higan and MESS are so rudimentary it's not even funny. THOSE are emulators deserving the "not recommended" tag.
mGBA and VBA-M are functional (both accuracy and speed, and mGBA has an even higher compatibility and a better cheat manager than VBA-M, but lacks customized hardware renders and those debug viewers for romhacking purposes -but if we started to care about those no$gba would be the best by far, huh?- so we can't say in absolute terms mGBA isn't recommended with a straight face). They both deserve the "recommended" tag, period.
I don't see how they both support the recommended tag. Compared to mGBA, VBA-M is less accurate, less compatible and slower. That alone should ring alarm bells. Mudlord (talk) 23:26, 12 April 2016 (EDT)
Just imagine how laughable it would be to tag DeSMume as "not recommended" just because no$gba exists, even though DeSMume can open games no$gba simply can't. Compatibility isn't a "niche feature".
If you have a beef with mGBA, just help with its direct competitor's article (VBA-M) and all the stuff that only it can do.

VBA-M: Recommended Or Not?

Since this edit war is going on, someone explain in detail why VBA-M is not recommended anymore and yet other similar emulators like SNES9X are still recommended. 174.44.129.95 22:05, 28 January 2016 (EST)

Compared to mGBA, it's less accurate, less compatible, slower, and doesn't really offer any more features. Snes9x is still recommended as it's faster than bsnes/higan, and when it comes to standalones many prefer it's GUI over higan. --SonofUgly (talk) 22:46, 28 January 2016 (EST)
I might be biased, but I wouldnt recommend VBA-M with a 10 foot pole. Mudlord (talk) 23:23, 12 April 2016 (EDT)
MY 2 cents: VBA-M has improved a lot, is still active developed and they are adding missing feature that mGBA supports. https://github.com/visualboyadvance-m/visualboyadvance-m/releases. Personal opinions: compared to higan gives a lot less headache with GBA emulation (frame sync vs audio sync) and a lot better performance. It may not accurate as mGBA and as higan, but for the avarage user, it may be the best alternative to mGBA. --212.216.160.13 08:30, 17 November 2018 (EST)

More Emulators

Mednafen and Virtual Game Boy Advance (VGBA) do run Game Boy Advance ROMs.

What's the deal with MyBoy?

There is no explanation for it being "Not Recommended", and that's weird cause it's pretty solid for what it is and you don't have to deal with the shitty controls and bloat that comes with RetroArch.

What about Virtual Boy Advance?

Virtual Boy Advance is unreleased GB/C, VB, GBA, NDS, and 3DS emulator. Virtual Boy Advance is the unreleased mix of Gambatte, VBjin, VBA-M libretro, DeSmuME, No$GBA, VBA Link e-Reader and Citra. I think Virtual Boy Advance will be released 15 years later. --212.252.97.163 (talk)

The fuck? Virtual Boy Advance is NOT A VB NDS 3DS emulator and NOT A MIX OF GAMBATTE VBJIN VBA-M LIBRETRO DESMUME NO$GBA VBA LINK ER-THATS NOT EVEN A FUCKING EMULATOR?! --LilShootDawg (talk) 07:49, 5 November 2018 (EST)

Not yet emulated

These systems have not been emulated yet, such as Xbox One, RDI Halcyon and Playdia.

Cool. This is the fucking GBA emulators. --LilShootDawg (talk) 10:24, 5 November 2018 (EST)

VBA "The original GBA emulator."

Hi, I noticed that Visual Boy Advance is referred to as "The original GBA emulator." on this page. Is VBA the same emulator as GBAEmu which released in September 2000 before the GBA came out? https://www.zophar.net/gba/gbaemu.html 108.162.241.29 23:37, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

No, VBA was forked several times, so calling it "the original" was meant to distinguish it from VBA-M, which is actively maintained. -FosterHaven (talk) 02:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
In that case I would propose switching it to "The original VBA emulator." and adding some information about GBAEmu (as it is an interesting piece of history). 108.162.241.29 23:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

mGBA & VBA-M

I heard that mGBA is faster and more accurate than VBA-M. Also, the "best" version of VBA-M has a broken link so is no longer avaliable for download. Explain why it was more superior to the latest version.

Remove protection after data loss

Lordlouckster (talk) 14:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)